"Responsorial" Gloria

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"Responsorial" Gloria

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Thinking it's probably still a good idea to avoid hymn books and music leaflets for the time being I'm going to reintroduce our congregation to singing again by including, among other things, a "Responsorial" Gloria. As we haven't sung such since the days of the (old translation) Lourdes Gloria I'm wondering if any particular setting has emerged as the common standard. (No point in re-inventing the wheel at this stage!)

Please may we not get involved in a discussion about whether "Responsorial" is better or worse than "Straight through", or whether w should avoid hymn books etc by projecting on walls or printing weekly "missalettes" or any other contrivance. I'd be very grateful to know which setting, if any, is currently "top of the pops" :)

It's already Tuesday. (Panic setting in.)

Thanks in anticipation for any help.

Q

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For what it is worth, we're delaying the introduction of the Gloria for a few weeks while we get the congregation used to singing responses etc again.

I can think of 2 responsorial Glorias - one from the Lourdes Mass (Lècot), but make sure you use the 2011 translation version (there are still a few old ones out there!) and another by David Saint from St Chads Cathedral, Birmingham. Both have gone down reasonably well. I'll pm you with publisher details etc as soon as I can find them!
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Rather than trying to use a Responsorial Gloria at all, why not use the Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord" Gloria?

It's the one that at least seven dioceses in England and Wales (and many more elsewhere) recommended as the setting for parishes to use when we were changing to the new texts in 2011.

It's similar to Chris Walker's Belmont Gloria, in that it is a simple chant with two melodies. But unlike the Walker, which arbitrarily alternates tunes A and B without any real reference to the text, the Psallite Gloria uses two melodies and that do follow the actual structure of the text. So part 1 is sung to tune A, part 2 to tune B, and part 3 returns to tune A again.

It's very, very simple, and easy to pick up. You can do it completely unaccompanied, or with organ, or guitar, and there are choir harmonies too. We've been using it with just cantor and organ since Easter, and the clergy already know it well, as well as (I suspect) most of the up to now non-singing congregation. If you start it off this weekend, within a week or two people will be singing it as if they had been singing it all their life. It's that easy, memorable, and yet not boring.

One other thing: the music needs to go at a reasonable pace (speech rhythm, in fact). Sung like that, it dances!

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I can recommend Dan Schutte's Mass of Christ the Savior, which can be sung either with a repeat refrain or straight through.
Published by OCP (and available to listen to on Youtube)

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Johnoftheguitar wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:47 pm
I can recommend Dan Schutte's Mass of Christ the Savior, which can be sung either with a repeat refrain or straight through.
Published by OCP (and available to listen to on Youtube)
Be aware, if you use this, that it is known as the "My Little Pony" Mass.

To give just one example: https://www.facebook.com/CatholicTalkSh ... 865953473/

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8) 8) 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Southern Comfort wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:57 pm
Johnoftheguitar wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:47 pm
I can recommend Dan Schutte's Mass of Christ the Savior, which can be sung either with a repeat refrain or straight through.
Published by OCP (and available to listen to on Youtube)
Be aware, if you use this, that it is known as the "My Little Pony" Mass.

To give just one example: https://www.facebook.com/CatholicTalkSh ... 865953473/

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Southern Comfort wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:57 pm
Be aware, if you use this, that it is known as the "My Little Pony" Mass.
To give just one example: https://www.facebook.com/CatholicTalkSh ... 865953473/
Made the mistake of listening. You know that feeling when you can't unhear something? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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