God so loved the world

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God so loved the world

Post by Gwyn » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 am

John Stainer's "God so loved the world" (The Crucifixion) is sung lots during Lent and Holy Week, and that's a jolly good thing. Text-wise however, there's nothing that would prevent it being sung at any other time of the liturgical year.

There's many a trapped hymn that could do with liberating. O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness springs to mind; although invariably constrained to the "Epiphany" section of hymnals, it is surely suitable for any time of the year.

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Post by Becky » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:40 am

Agreed. We used O Worship the Lord on Lent 2, Transfiguration, and it fitted nicely. It was sung at the Offertory so, even though there were no magi about, the incense of lowliness was in evidence before the end!

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by VML » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:24 am

The Stainer was sung during R4 morning worship from a Methodist church in Neath yesterday. I thought what a fortunate church to have such a choir, till the credits revealed it was Swansea Bach Choir...

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by alan29 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:43 am

Its a lovely thing, I agree.
Are there any settings of that text for congregational use, I wonder.

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Post by quaeritor » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:23 pm

I used it one year to close an Advent carol service - sung with a strong ending resounding with optimism it was well received.

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by justMary » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:34 pm

alan29 wrote:Its a lovely thing, I agree.
Are there any settings of that text for congregational use, I wonder.


http://www.hymnary.org/text/god_so_loved_the_world_god_so_loved_the has a few entries for it - all have a 4-part score but all words are unison. I'd hazard a guess that the tune from any of them would work for a congregation.

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by alan29 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:05 am

justMary wrote:
alan29 wrote:Its a lovely thing, I agree.
Are there any settings of that text for congregational use, I wonder.


http://www.hymnary.org/text/god_so_loved_the_world_god_so_loved_the has a few entries for it - all have a 4-part score but all words are unison. I'd hazard a guess that the tune from any of them would work for a congregation.

Thanks for that.
I should have phrased my question differently.
I wonder if other composers have set that text in a way that is suitable for congregational singing.

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Post by Ephrem Feeley » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:06 pm

alan29 wrote:Its a lovely thing, I agree.
Are there any settings of that text for congregational use, I wonder.
There are a couple of congregational settings that use the quote from John 3:16. These are the ones that come to mind, and the weblinks:
For God so Loved the World, by Marty Haugen (http://www.giamusic.com/search_details. ... le_id=5068)
God so Loved the World, by Gerard Chiusano (https://ocp.org/en-us/songs/31180/god-s ... -the-world)
For God so Loved the World, by Kevin Keil (https://ocp.org/en-us/songs/51257/for-g ... -the-world)

I built this text into a piece called "God's Love for Us" (http://www.cherrybrookmusic.com/store/p ... or_Us.html).

It's a great text, and suitable not just for Passiontide, but also throughout the year, and for Christmas too, with the emphasis on incarnation. I don't think that the Stainer, despite its appeal, would work well for congregation, even though it may be in a few hymnbooks...

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by alan29 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:07 pm

Thank you for your spade work there.

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Re: God so loved the world

Post by Gwyn » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:13 pm

Abso. Inspiring and informative responses.
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