A Gospel Acclamation tone?

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A Gospel Acclamation tone?

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Is there a standard chant tone to use as a default setting for the Gospel Acclamation verse? - it seems such an admission of defeat if a congregation sings a lusty Alleluia and then recites the verse.

Come to think of it, are there default chant settings of the "Alleluia substitutes" used in Lent?

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That would depend on which Alleluia you're using, Q.
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The Missal's music for the Order of Mass may be found here: http://www.icelweb.org/musicfolder/openmusic.php - but there is no provision for the Gospel Acclamation in any of its forms so far as I can see (nor is any printed in the Roman Missal).
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The one I regard as "standard" Nick - simply represented as "G A B G . A-B A-G E_ D_ . G A-B A-G G" - widely encountered on the continent intoned by the celebrant and less frequently in this country (but not by the celebrant!) On the continent I've often heard just the Alleluia with the verse omitted entirely; in this country the verse spoken. Neither is ideal.

And Musicus, that's exactly the problem - the Gospel Acclamation is Lectionary so not catered for in the Missal.

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Yes, recognise that Q. But that's just one of many hundreds. I presume you sing many others too!
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We certainly do, Nick, but I'm thinking of times when there is no "organised" music but it's still possible - and desirable - for some brave soul to lead the main Acclamations (maybe that should be taught in seminaries - it would seem that it is on the Continent). A neighbouring parish here has no choir and occasionally no instrument either, and it was for a long time the practice, even when there was an organist, for one of the servers to intone the Alleluia, but for the congregation to recite the verse.

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Surely a two note G to A and back again would be enough to carry the text of the verse with that particular Alleluia.
We generally omit the verse altogether as the distance for the priest to travel to the lectern is not great. When the latest translation came out our PP tried to get the readers to speak the verse, but the effect was so naff that it didn't last long. They do that in France with responsorial psalms quite a bit ..... but thats the French for you. :wink:
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quaeritor wrote:And Musicus, that's exactly the problem - the Gospel Acclamation is Lectionary so not catered for in the Missal.

Doh! That explains it.
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You don't even need a tone, just a reciting note. I think the problem is more to do with congregational confidence in singing but this can be overcome, as was done with singing the 'Alleluia' itself.
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With my choir I usually look at using the Celtic Alleluia with verse, where it fits. If this is not suitable then I use a standard Alleluia taken from the popular Easter Night psalm and for the verses the psalm tones composed by Dom. Gregory Murray in the key of G. The change usually goes along the lines of G, E G, A for the first sentence then A, G E, G for the last sentence.
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Welcome to the forum, Biodiode!
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quaeritor wrote:And Musicus, that's exactly the problem - the Gospel Acclamation is Lectionary so not catered for in the Missal.

Doh! That explains it.

You may wish to re mi that doh... because Appendix I of the Missal contains chanting rules for virtually every other element of the Lectionary!
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Thank you! I shall take a look at that.
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In Salford, our weekday sheets recommend using the Easter Alleluia tone with the words "Praise to you, Lord! Glory to
you, Christ: you are the Word of God!" I have sung those words a few times but so far I have been singing alone. They will join in if I say the words of the Acclamation but look totally puzzled when I sing the recommended words. They know the tune, I sing each time I am reading and they sing it with me, but I must say that those words do not exactly 'flow'. Give it two or three years.
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