Pope's resignation

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Pope's resignation

Post by Hare » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:37 am

Have just seen on Sky News that Pope Benedict XVI is resigning due to ill health on 28 february 2013. Sad news indeed

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by kerrezza » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:51 am

We were just having a discussion saying we weren't aware that a pope could resign; apparently the last one who did was Gregory XII in 1415

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by nazard » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:46 pm

I much admire the Pope for this decision. I suspect that it took a great deal of courage.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Hare » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:01 pm

nazard wrote:I much admire the Pope for this decision. I suspect that it took a great deal of courage.


Indeed. I am sure that those in some quarters will put their own reading on the decision.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Howard Baker » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:08 am

Is anyone planning to allude musically to the event next Sunday? (A 'Christus vincit' at the end of Mass, or something? I guess Lent makes it even more tricky.)

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by dunstan » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:57 pm

I find it interesting how much of the comment comes from his brother Georg. I always imagine the papacy must be quite a lonely office to occupy, and I assume Benedict and his brother are close. If he was chewing over the idea of abdication then I'm sure Georg would have encouraged him in it guided, of course, by the Holy Spirit.

I'm assuming the webcam on the Sistine Chapel chimney will be back in action for the conclave.
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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Nick Baty » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:17 pm

Howard Baker wrote:Is anyone planning to allude musically to the event next Sunday?
This is not a liturgical event. However, after what Benedict has done to our Liturgy would that matter?

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Howard Baker » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:23 pm

Ah, come on! Major coverage of events related to our chief pastor in the world's media (on the BBC news again as I type), generating much positive interest from outside the Church, and we just ignore it completely next Sunday....? Might we not just adjust the musical/liturgical conventions a bit now and again?

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Nick Baty » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:27 pm

I feel a polyphonic Deo Gratias coming on. ;)

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Gwyn » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:00 pm

The Al Jazeera news channel gave very sensitive coverage yesterday.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by HallamPhil » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:14 pm

I think in the same way as some celebrated the anniversaries of his pontificate it may be appropriate to organise a diocesan/deanery/parish thanksgiving mass for the pontificate after 28 February and at the same time pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit in appointing the successor. i do also think that this should be at a time distinct from the usual Sunday Mass slot which will continue to follow the liturgical year.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Peter Jones » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:29 pm

See Roman Missal p.1308 and p.1304 - but I see no specific Mass for a Pope who has resigned.
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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Howard Baker » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:39 am

I wasn't thinking of ignoring the First Sunday of Lent, just of maybe having a hymn or chant or something to mark what's happening in the world.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by Nick Baty » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:05 am

A hymn about social injustice?
I certainly can't think of one about someone retiring.

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Re: Pope's resignation

Post by nazard » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:13 am

I will stick to "Full in the panting heart of Rome" and miss out the last verse.

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