Happy Advent

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by IncenseTom » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:40 pm

Southern Comfort wrote:
IncenseTom wrote:However, the PP says if the words are not in the Missal, they won't be in the Mass.


He's going to have a hard time when he comes to use the EPs for Masses with Children, then. They aren't in the Missal either, but can continue to be used.


He's not really the sort of Preist who's a fan of the Children's EP's - He would probably go for Eucharistic Prayer 1 if he could!

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by organgrinder » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:27 pm

We did the following:
Entrance: To you, O Lord, I lift my soul (Psallite)
Penitential rite: spoken
Psalm: God of hosts, bring us back (Inwood/Psallite)
Advent Alleluias (Andrew Wright)
Gospel dialogue: Missal chants (first time sung by our deacon)
Prep of gifts: Rorate caeli (Latin response, English verses) – Laudate 95
Mass of Creation (Marty Haugen) - first use of a revised setting
Lamb of God: Belmont Mass (Walker)
Communion Procession: My soul in stillness waits (Marty Haugen)
Post Communion: O Jesus Christ remember
Organ: Wachet auf, ruft uns de Stimme (JS Bach)

I was expecting comments about too much chant and only one hymn, but nothing was said. Choir liked it all!

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by Nick Baty » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:04 am

organgrinder wrote:I was expecting comments about too much chant and only one hymn, but nothing was said.
Seems a very balanced and interesting music list. You must have a great assembly! :)If our parish could manage that lot I'd be delighted.

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by organgrinder » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:56 pm

Seems a very balanced and interesting music list. You must have a great assembly! If our parish could manage that lot I'd be delighted.


Thanks Nick. Coming from you that's quite a compliment! For us the choir's role is usually limited to leading the assembly in the responses/refrains and sometimes singing verses, with a cantor doing the more difficult stuff (no conductor - as I'm usually playing organ or piano, but right next to them). Not having the choir or even cantor every week somehow 'requires' the assembly to sing and they are quite keen. It does limit what one can tackle on a non-choir Sunday though.

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by Nick Baty » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:43 pm

organgrinder wrote:For us the choir's role is usually limited to leading the assembly in the responses/refrains and sometimes singing verses, with a cantor doing the more difficult stuff
I wouldn't say that was "limited" – I'd say that was spot on. That's what we try to do in our small church – we don't always succeed but that's what we aim for.

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by Terry Quinn » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:24 pm

As a new member I am pleased to be able to share with this forum what we did at our Mass today.

Entrance Antiphon. For Advent 1 B.
I set the words of the missal in unaccompanied, quasi plainsong style.
The response was taken from the words of the first sentence. The rest of the words were easily set to a psalm tone and I added a doxology to round it off. As we have a good men’s schola they canted the verses and It worked very well.
We normally start with a processional hymn but I wanted to herald the new direction and experience the latest recommendations (as I understand them).
The reaction varied from, a) lovely and prayerful, so much suited to Advent, it made a change, 2) Hmm. nice, but I prefer a rousing hymn with organ to stir everyone up.

Lord have mercy – Nashdom Mass, Antony Greening.(led by schola)

Psalm 79. – James Walsh. (A Responsorial Psalm Book GB Smith) - led by cantor

Gosp. Acclam. - Laurence Bevenot from same GBS Book.

Bidding response “Come Lord Jesus, Maranatha” Celeb Hymnal. (cantor driven)

Prep of Gifts. Hymn “Yahweh I know you are near”.

Holy holy – Walker’s Celtic Liturgy (revised words)

Mem. Acclam. - Save us Saviour, etc. – my setting

Agnus Dei from Richard Terry’s Short Mass in C, -Latin, led by the schola and sung by all.
I dug this out from the depths of our music cupboard. This was its first airing in 30 years and I was amazed how the congregation latched on to it to join in.

Communion – Rorate Coeli – Tye - 16th century unaccompanied polyphony

Recessional hymn. – O Jesus Christ Remember.

Organ was used only to accompany the singing

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by kerrezza » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:17 pm

Of topic (sorry) I was told by previous pp that we were no longer allowed to sing anything that had the word Yahweh in, can't remember the reason though.

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by Nick Baty » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:35 pm

Story here from Zenit. And it’s discussed here on this forum back in 2008.

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by musicus » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:54 pm

Terry Quinn wrote:As a new member I am pleased to be able to share with this forum what we did at our Mass today.

Thank you, Terry - and welcome to the forum.
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Re: Happy Advent

Post by kerrezza » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:23 pm

Thank you Nick

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by docmattc » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:35 pm

This is the running order for the 2nd Sunday of Advent for the parish in which I live, but no longer worship (for some reason they still send me the music list now and again even though they haven't seen me since May)

Entrance On Jordan’s bank the Baptists cry 94
Gloria Berthier 528
Psalm Response ‘..Let us see, O Lord your mercy, and give us your saving help..’.’
Gospel Acclamation Plainsong
Offertory Songs of thankfulness and praise 172
Sanctus Gathering Mass 481
Acclamation Gathering Mass 483
Communion The Choir will sing: a suitable motet
Recessional Lo, he comes with clouds descending 109

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by contrabordun » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:45 pm

docmattc wrote:Gloria Berthier 528

?
Paul Hodgetts

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by TimSharrock » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:01 am

And our plans for the 2nd Sunday of Advent (and also enrolment for the first holy communion program, hence the final hymn, just to make sure there is something all the children know)
    Date 2011-12-04 Advent2 B
    En L107 The King Of Glory Comes
    Of L609 In Bread We Bring You
    Ho L565 Holy, Holy (Mass of St Andrew)
    La GG066 Lamb of God (Mass of St Luke)
    C1 L099 O Comfort My People
    C2 L084 Like A Sea Without A Shore
    C3 L088 Wait For The Lord
    Fi L973 He's got the whole world in his hand

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by HelenR » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:45 am

We had the enrollment of children for First Communion in our mass at the start of advent and had an elongated blessing of the Jesse tree and lighting of the advent candle but the music went as follows
Gather Gather with new verses based on the O antiphons
Light the Advent Candle _ Chris Walker
Kyrie Taize
Psalm - God of Hosts
Gospel Halle Halle
Enrollment of Children Abba Father
Procession of Gifts: We come to your feast
Acclamations: Revised Gathering mass
Communion Procession All in all
This is my body
Recession Christ be our Light

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Re: Happy Advent

Post by Gwyn » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:54 am

R U serious about:
Fi L973 He's got the whole world in his hand
Tim?

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