To which text do you refer GF ?
I am referring to Chris Walker's 'We are the Church' (what a terrific tune!)
presbyter wrote:From another blog discussing the Haugen text:I really dont care what the lyrics are but I think the song sounds cool.
To what extent do people take notice of the texts of hymns when they are singing them? Discuss!
presbyter wrote:Hymn texts, of their nature, cannot express a huge baggage of theology but I do think that the amounts they carry should be orthodox.
Gedackt flute wrote:My parish will be singing Haugen's 'All are welcome' in a few weeks time
presbyter wrote:(10) Fidelity to the rites and to the authentic texts of the Liturgy is a requirement of the Lex orandi, which must always be in conformity with the Lex credendi.
VICESIMUS QUINTUS ANNUS 1988 John Paul II
leads to…(108) Sung texts and liturgical hymns have a particular importance and efficacy. Especially on Sunday, the “Day of the Lord”, the singing of the faithful gathered for the celebration of Holy Mass, no less than the prayers, the readings and the homily, express in an authentic way the message of the Liturgy while fostering a sense of common faith and communion in charity. If they are used widely by the faithful, they should remain relatively fixed so that confusion among the people may be avoided. Within five years from the publication of this Instruction, the Conferences of Bishops, necessarily in collaboration with the national and diocesan Commissions and with other experts, shall provide for the publication of a directory or repertory of texts intended for liturgical singing. This document shall be transmitted for the necessary recognitio to the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments.
Liturgiam authenticam 2001 SCDWDS
Not as stringent as the Council of Laodicea but the pastoral concern is the same (and our Bishops are now requiring a Nihil Obstat in regard to publishing hymn books).
Having seen the recent Summer School liturgy book, even our Society can get things wrong. One text, a paraphrase of a liturgical hymn, has been misunderstood by the author. The original has been distorted in that something Christ is doing becomes something we ourselves are doing. The ecclesiology – a people called by Christ to do something, and responding to that call – is lost. Is that nit-picking? Perhaps those who sang didn’t notice such subtlety.
Hymn texts, of their nature, cannot express a huge baggage of theology but I do think that the amounts they carry should be orthodox.
Please do not ask me which hymn I am referring to. I do not wish to embarrass the author.
Perhaps some SSG members and parishes have no need to express such illuminating sentiments in song, but I see no need to be so scathing and uncharitable in commenting about Dufner and Haugen.
Tresham wrote:I learnt Sing a new church years ago, must have been at a Summer School or an NNPM event, and ... it has at times been ideal to express the prayers of a gathered community, uniting in song at either a non-eucharistic service or an ecumenical gathering. Here in this place ... has expressed the prayers of the community ...
Tresham wrote:Perhaps some SSG members and parishes have no need to express such illuminating sentiments in song, but I see no need to be so scathing and uncharitable in commenting about Dufner and Haugen.
Tresham wrote:They have their place in the repertoire, and the Holy Spirit can use their music to bring people closer to God just as much as the plainsong of the past, and even if some people don’t understand the words.
Tresham wrote: I see no need to be so scathing and uncharitable in commenting about Dufner.....
Tresham wrote:it’s never been my choice for a Sunday Liturgy