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Sibulius and pdfs

Post by Merseysider » Sat May 13, 2006 12:09 pm

Having a frustrating time with Sibelius v Adobe pdf maker. I can make perfect pdfs from Word, Quark, In-design etc at the push of a button but, for some reason, a pdf made from Siblius imposes a 2cm margin all round the page. If I tell it reproduce at 100pc it misses bits out, if I say fit to page it's all much smaller than I'd like. Anyone else had the same problem and, if so, can you help me find the margin settings on the Adobe distiller? I've just spent four hours getting nowhere – when I should have been scrubbing the kitchen floor!

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Post by musicus » Sat May 13, 2006 5:14 pm

Which version of Sibelius are you using? I can check out versions 3 and 4 on Windows or Mac.

I've just printed an A4 score from Sibelius 4 using the Adobe PDF printer driver on my Mac, and all is OK.
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Post by Gwyn » Sat May 13, 2006 8:22 pm

A suggestion if you're strapped for time or have a deadline, e-mail me your score(s) and I'll convert it/them to PDF for you then e-mail you them back. That doesn't resolve pdf creation problem3 for you though.

I'm using Sib 3 and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 7. on a PC. I think the pdf files created by that combination are OK. I'll have a mouse around my Adobe Acrobat printer driver settings and see if there's anything interesting we can tamper with.

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Post by sidvicius » Sun May 14, 2006 3:35 pm

This is an old problem that has been inherent in the Humans (Ver: Sapiens) software produced by God since time immemorial. Go to File>Duties>Housekeeping and uncheck the box marked "Procrastinate". Then leave Human to run unattended for about twenty minutes while it sorts itself out. Then try it again. This usually does the trick.
p.s. Don't expect God to sort this problem out any time soon. I checked with the helpline and they said its a random internal fault that affects all versions of Human at some time or other, and most computers work round it.

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Post by Merseysider » Sun May 14, 2006 9:09 pm

Thank you all for the advice but I finally cracked it. I was leaving the page set up on Letter instead of A4 – as simple as that – everything was being proportionately reduced! Very happy now!
Thanks again, one and all – especially Sid – surreal!
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Post by musicus » Mon May 15, 2006 5:56 pm

Ahah! Glad you cracked it - and a useful one to remember for our own work.
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Post by dunstan » Tue May 16, 2006 9:46 am

You can use FreepdfXP
(http://freepdfxp.de/fpxp.htm)to get PDF output from anything with a printer interface - it gets added as another printing device, handy if you're using a simpler notation tool such as Noteworthy.

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Post by Pervisor » Sat May 20, 2006 9:29 am

Or Cuteddf ( http://www.cutepdf.com/ ) in English - same sort of thing, appears as a new printer

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Ugly PDFs on screen

Post by mcb » Sat May 20, 2006 10:04 am

I've had a problem generating PDFs from Sibelius on my Mac, since upgrading to Sibelius 4 (or it may be since upgrading to OS X 10.4; but I think it was the Sibelius upgrade that did it). Since then the PDFs look very ugly on screen - all the musical notation looks crudely drawn and barely legible, except at the highest magnification when it looks fine. Ordinary text is fine, nicely antialiased and as legible as it should be, even at low levels of zoom; it's just the music that looks funny. Printed out, everything is fine.

Anybody else recognise the symptoms?

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Post by Gwyn » Sat May 20, 2006 11:23 am

From the Sibelius web site forum - dunnow if it helps:

Sib. 4.0: pdf files of Sibelius scores look jagged when using Preview
Posted by Roy Wheldon - 04 Apr 06


Since updating to Sibelius 4.0 (as well as 4.1), pdf files as exhibited by the Preview application (on Mac OS X 10.4.5) look lousy, although they print out OK. This is a drawback, for when sending pdf versions of Sibelius files to clients to proofread, they must print out the pdf files to read them (assuming they have a Mac). This is a waste of paper and a waste of energy.
I don't know if Windows users have the same problem. Or even if the pdf files would look better using Acrobat Reader in place of Preview on a Mac.

Re: Sib. 4.0: pdf files of Sibelius scores look jagged when using Preview
Posted by Daniel at Sibelius - 06 Apr 06


Roy, the problem is with the version of Preview in Mac OS X 10.4. PDF files produced from Sibelius via the direct 'Save As PDF' route in the File > Print dialog look fine in Adobe Reader 7, on both Mac and Windows.

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Post by Gwyn » Sat May 20, 2006 11:31 am

Sib. 4.1: Sib 4.1 vs. Sib 3.x on Mac RE: Preview and screen view of pdfs
Posted by Brian Moore - 01 Apr 06


I have an issue where the preview of music on Mac (Tiger - 10.4.5) (and therefore screen portion of pdf) does not render clearly on Sib 4.1 where all is well on Sib 3...

Easy to reproduce - simply create a new score and immediately go to Print and select preview...

I should note that pdfs on version 4.1 DO print as expected...

Thanks for any confirmation/resolution of this issue!

Re: Sib. 4.1: Sib 4.1 vs. Sib 3.x on Mac RE: Preview and screen view of pdfs
Posted by dbudde - 01 Apr

When you print, save PDF as postscript first then open that file using the finder. It will convert to PDF when opened and will be a clear image.


Re: Sib. 4.1: Sib 4.1 vs. Sib 3.x on Mac RE: Preview and screen view of pdfs

Posted by schwabbl - 01 Apr 02:17

Wow. Big difference.
Why is that?

Brian

Re: Sib. 4.1: Sib 4.1 vs. Sib 3.x on Mac RE: Preview and screen view of pdfs
Posted by dbudde - 01 Apr 06

This is a well known issue. Unfortunately the cause is not determined. See also this thread.

http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcen ... &groupid=3
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Sorted!

Post by mcb » Sat May 20, 2006 1:20 pm

Thanks, Gwyn! The solutions both work a treat, viz. viewing the PDFs in Adobe Reader, or saving the PDFs as postscript and then converting with Preview.

I had looked at the Sibelius forum - did a search for 'pdfs' and 'ugly' and didn't find anything. Should have searched more patiently. Or asked you sooner. :-) Thanks again.

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