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by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:07 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

You missed out 'lighting in the church is poor', 'English is not my first language' and 'the photocopier has been excommunicated', but I take your point. So, please tell me, how long is 'long enough' for these announcements within and interrupting the Mass at which we celebrate the Eucharist - the '...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:49 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Parish newsletter not seen by many? Isn't that the piece of paper put inside the hymn books along with a Mass card and handed to worshippers when they arrive? The paper some read before Mass begins, others during the homily? The paper that has the antiphons and readings on one side and parish announ...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:40 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Nick Baty wrote:
BobHayes wrote:Not at all. Brief announcements are reasonable if that is the only option to communicate them effectively.
Is there another option?
BobHayes wrote:The solemnity of the sung Mass...
How do you define a sung Mass?


Newsletter, noticeboards, fliers, even ICT.

Define a 'sung Mass'? The one to which I refer was described as '17.30 Solemn Mass (Choir)' on the Westminster Cathedral website.
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:31 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

But to the question again, do you think it is okay to use the Mass as a vehicle for a presentation? A rather strange question as, surely, noone would agree with that and noone has suggested it. But you appear to object to giving information to the community before the community is dismissed. Not at...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:12 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Ten times greater than the number you find turn-up post Mass, eh? But to the question again, do you think it is okay to use the Mass as a vehicle for a presentation?
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:57 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

I presume most people would be shocked if a presentation, on for example parish reorganisation, was inserted into the celebration of a Mass for the Dead.... Yet apparently it is okay to insert such presentations into a Mass in communion with Jesus Christ that celebrates his death and resurrection. ...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The wickedness of face cream
Replies: 150
Views: 470535

Re: The wickedness of face cream

'You who live Ann Drain forever and....' :shock:
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:02 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

I presume most people would be shocked if a presentation, on for example parish reorganisation, was inserted into the celebration of a Mass for the Dead. It would - I imagine - be deemed 'insensitive' or 'disrespectful'. Yet apparently it is okay to insert such presentations into a Mass in communion...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

And while we're on the subject of pastoral insensitivity, I wonder how many clergy have noticed this appalling para in GIRM? 382. At Funeral Masses there should usually be a short Homily, but to the exclusion of a funeral eulogy of any kind. One wants to assume that they actually mean that a eulogy...
by BobHayes
Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:30 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

So how/when/where do you explain the restructuring of the pastoral area, the merging of the parish with its neighbours, the new structure of the rites of initiation, the commissioning of lay funeral ministers etc? When do you invite people to join the bereavement team, the outreach project for sex ...
by BobHayes
Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:07 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

The priest who presides? Sorry Nick, flippancy getting hold of me. Of course I knew who you meant. 'Presiding priest' is one of those phrases that - to me at least - seems to reduce the position of priest to the status of 'job', bereft of any spiritual element. As to the best way of ensuring parish...
by BobHayes
Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:47 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Nick Baty wrote:presiding priest.


Who he?
by BobHayes
Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:11 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Am I missing something here? Literacy levels in GB parishes may have an impact on the exposition - an understanding - of the Liturgy: is that is what is being said? :?:
by BobHayes
Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:41 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

Are you thinking of things like the SVP Appeal when done by the parish group leader? I personally have no problem with that sort of thing - liturgy is meant to lead its participants to help bring about the Kingdom, isn't it? A specific invitation can't be a bad thing, surely? Trying to remember the...
by BobHayes
Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:16 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Malurgy
Replies: 136
Views: 44283

Re: Malurgy

So if he can't make longer announcements at the beginning, and he can't make them at the end, just when does he make them? Even important matters can be expressed briefly. However, what I had in mind when originally posting, is the kind of formal presentation given by a third party before the Concl...