Society of Saint Gregory

Nick Baty wrote:You've misquoted me, HB. I didn't say any of that.

It was me HB ........ it's easy to get confused with this software.

I think we need an appraisal of the Missal (and Graduale) antiphon texts in relation to their musical usability. Awwwww...... I was thinking you might have gone even further and sided with the late Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, who really did want to tackle the conciliar thrust of engaging with the...

Nick Baty wrote:Saluté PJ!

And with your spirit.

........and our duty to ensure that the assembly sings that which is rightly theirs/ours. Careful now - look at the raw GIRM and look at what our Bishops consider best practice (CTM). Cullen, with his ultramontanist tendencies, will surely defend his views on every word that comes out of the mouth ...

I do wonder with Cullen and people of similar mind-set that if you exclaimed "Vatican II is the best thing since sliced bread - and that embraces, white, brown, 50/50, sesame seeded, poppy-seeded, multi-seeded ............!!!" - you'd get the answer, "I don't like sliced bread." ...

People no longer following is not something new - read Jesus' own plaintive question - John 6: 67 ‘Do you also wish to go away?’ I repeat - departure from organised religion was (and is) not just an RC phenomenon. It was (and is) pan-denominational and now affects not just the Christian faith but al...

(b) what proportion of the most popular (popular, not best) hymns/songs today have words of Biblical orgin? Quite some question!! Our major hymnals do have scriptural indices........ anyone care to do the analysis Howard is asking for? (One of our Liturgy Planner compilers? Go on - not as if you ha...

Howard Baker wrote:Well, I wasn't meaning to be get all legalistic.......

My apologies if I came across as a bit grumpy - I did indeed read you as being legalistic.

Given our collective comments about how Cullen has missed scriptural foundations /allusions in the songs he implicitly condemns (and even, in so doing,has implied that Almighty God himself is a heretic) - this is perhaps an opportune time to remind ourselves of paragraph 25 of Dei Verbum and its poi...

And if you might think of making reference to Sacramentum Caritatis paragraph 42 - I would remind readers of the deliberate and, to my mind, possibly duplicitous manipulation of Pope Benedict's Latin text by the translator. The original document makes no instruction/recommendation at all that Gregor...

It has just suited most of us over the years to ignore the liturgical rules. I have already referred to the PAPAL legislation on the use of hymns at Mass from 1955 - a step in the journey towards GIRM and other documents. Please, in what sense do you consider using a hymn instead of an Introit a di...

JW wrote:The Epistle and Gospel were read in English on a Sunday often instead of a homily...........

Read Clifford Howell here. The year is 1954.

When the new mass came in the most obvious effect was the rapid decline in congregations. Well OK but this was not just an RC phenomenon. Off the top of my head, in the 1950s half the population of the country - across all ecclesial communities - was attending church regularly. Church-going decline...

In this Year of Faith, we are asked to study the Constitutions of the Second Vatican Council. Alongside that study, and especially for those of us who have long memories, how have we experienced both the build up to Sacrosanctum Concilium and its subsequent implementation at parish level? For exampl...

" The 'me' is the Davidic 'me' of the psalms -- which, has everything to do with Catholicism. I must remember that....... now bidden to profess "I believe....", I am using the Davidic "I"? (Or is "I" a collective personal pronoun? The Creed sure seems a lot to do ...