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by Southern Comfort
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:58 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Easter Vigil lights.
Replies: 11
Views: 26444

Re: Easter Vigil lights.

Although in most things Paul Turner is good value, here I think he falls into the trap of trying to defend the indefensible. He might at least have criticised the completely gratuitous Sign of the Cross at the beginning of the Easter Vigil instead of using it to bolster his rather weak argument.
by Southern Comfort
Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:12 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Easter Vigil lights.
Replies: 11
Views: 26444

Re: Easter Vigil lights.

The same rubric was in the 1969 Missale Romanum and people ignored it then, so why not now? It's not the only error of judgement in the Third Edition of the Roman Missal by a long way. In my experience of Easter Vigils, not only has the Exsultet been sung by candlelight but the readings have also fa...
by Southern Comfort
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil
Replies: 18
Views: 44926

Re: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil

Has anyone else had to accompany the missal tone for the Exsultet because the priest who insisted on sing it (the long version at that) was so musically challenged that he was likely to set off somewhere in the alto register and end up like a Russian contra bass? Yes, but only when the priest himse...
by Southern Comfort
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:21 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil
Replies: 18
Views: 44926

Re: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil

One PP once asked for a version with responses that he'd heard elsewhere (can't remember who it was by) IIRC there was an instruction in it that the cantor raised an arm when they reached the phrase that the assembly were supposed to repeat. I seem to remember that it went quite well, although I wa...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The new constitution for the Roman Curia - Praedicate Evangelium
Replies: 2
Views: 9551

Re: The new constitution for the Roman Curia - Praedicate Evangelium

Interesting that it contained a reference to the "Extraordinary Form", which some traditionalists interpreted to mean that this term was still acceptable. The truth is more prosaic. Large parts of this lengthy document were drafted before Traditionis Custodes was issued, and this remaining...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:03 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil
Replies: 18
Views: 44926

Re: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil

VML mentions singing the Exsultet as a woman. Brava! This is one area where clericalism has once again reared its head in recent years. Deacons feel, or are told by priests, that they should be singing it, even if they are completely incapable of it. The chant version, particularly as messed up in t...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:31 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: So sad
Replies: 4
Views: 18003

Re: So sad

One thing that kept our young families away was that the toilets were closed. Since they were reopened, the young familes have come back — not yet in the previous numbers but certainly noticeable. Liturgy of the Word for Children started again at the beginning of Advent.
by Southern Comfort
Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:02 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: So sad
Replies: 4
Views: 18003

Re: So sad

But now congregations are singing again, even more strongly than before the pandemic began. This includes many from other countries who love singing even more than we do!
by Southern Comfort
Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil
Replies: 18
Views: 44926

Re: Limited supply of Psalmists for the Easter Vigil

They can be read, or replaced with silence. Don't think it's a good idea to add yet more readings to a liturgy already heavily laden with them. I would consider going down the route of singing each psalm so that it sounds different. For example (1) sung a cappella, (2) [Canticle of Moses], sung acc...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: "Adoration and Chips"
Replies: 1
Views: 7981

"Adoration and Chips"

What is wrong with everybody? It's not that long ago that we had a situation where, every time Catholics came together for anything, they expected to "have Mass". It was as if our collective memory had forgotten all the other things that we could do together, whether the Divine Office, Tai...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: " . . Old forgotten far-off things, and battles long ago"
Replies: 12
Views: 24668

Re: " . . Old forgotten far-off things, and battles long ago"

I would agree about the body blow that the new translation caused. It is scandalous that, 11 years on, we still have to endure liturgical texts that quite simply aren't in a language that anyone speaks. If anyone is happy with prevenient grace, the immensity of his majesty, consubstantial and so muc...
by Southern Comfort
Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:45 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: " . . Old forgotten far-off things, and battles long ago"
Replies: 12
Views: 24668

Re: " . . Old forgotten far-off things, and battles long ago"

I do sympathise with how depressing all this is. And of course it's not the first time it has happened. I remember in the mid-1990s thinking "How is it that these people have never heard all the stuff we were doing and thinking 25 years ago in the early 70s? Where have they been?" Back in ...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:24 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Guidelines from the Bishops Conference of England & Wales
Replies: 3
Views: 11329

Re: New Guidelines from the Bishops Conference of England & Wales

I think that will be true in more than a few places, alas. At the same time, I think the bishops may have relaxed some things too early. Removing the mask mandate, which is certainly protecting people to some extent from a virulent variant, seems unwise, even if the government has done this. We owe ...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:21 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The post-Christmas period
Replies: 9
Views: 18465

Re: The post-Christmas period

Just shows that it pays to stay active on this forum! :D
by Southern Comfort
Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Mill Hill Chapel
Replies: 5
Views: 11987

Re: Mill Hill Chapel

It seems to be a lively Unitarian chapel.

Alas, they do not believe in the Trinity, nor that Jesus Christ was God, merely that he was divinely inspired.

Difficult, therefore, to know how they can sing Christmas carols as meaning what we believe them to mean.