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by Southern Comfort
Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:31 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Ding Dong Merrily on high - need pronunciation help
Replies: 32
Views: 18820

Re: Ding Dong Merrily on high - need pronunciation help

As for Ee-o or Aye-o, I know that there is an explanation of the derivation of the expression, but I don't recall what it is - I'm sure someone on this forum will know it. For the pronunciation I would refer to the "Adeste Fideles" - "Cantet nunc "Io" chorus angelorum"...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:00 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Ding Dong Merrily on high - need pronunciation help
Replies: 32
Views: 18820

Re: Ding Dong Merrily on high - need pronunciation help

dunstan wrote:Ex-chelsis, Eck-shelsis or Egg-shelsis?

And in verse 2, Eye-Oh or Eee-Oh?


Eck-shel-seess or Egg-shel-seess - either will do. The first is better, the second easier for choir people to remember.

Eee-Oh! (Way to remember - think of American Yee-Haw! which means the same thing, in fact.)
by Southern Comfort
Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:51 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Teaching the teachers
Replies: 46
Views: 16548

Re: Teaching the teachers

This morning's Mass was hijacked by our primary school. <snip> It's the lack of energy really, that is what upsets me. Also the lack of communication. The lack of organisation and vision. The inability of our school to enliven the pupils to any kind of purpose within the Church. Same here this morn...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:18 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music for weddings
Replies: 62
Views: 92846

Re: Music for weddings

The main problem I have found is the vast majority of the congregation are not church-goers, so they don't have a scooby-doo and don't sing along anyway. So such "celebrations" are reduced to the sound of Father Baritune and his housekeeper, the Widow Tenoroon, warbling in exact unison, j...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:40 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: O Magnum Mysterium
Replies: 5
Views: 3623

Re: O Magnum Mysterium

mcb wrote:I'd warmly recommend the setting by Morten Lauridsen


Or the gorgeous Poulenc setting (not for the faint-hearted!).
by Southern Comfort
Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Reviving our music
Replies: 25
Views: 9334

Re: Reviving our music

By the look of this , ICEL will allow settings of their texts to be downloadable free of charge. But they will require approval from the relevant national liturgy office for each individual setting made available in that way. I think that's what the letter from ICEL in that link says. M. Indeed it ...
by Southern Comfort
Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:44 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music for weddings
Replies: 62
Views: 92846

Re: Music for weddings

Or (from the Archdiocese of Dublin list of 20 banned hymns):

Yesterday [all my troubles seemed so far away - now I know that they are here to stay]
Lady in Red
Time in a Bottle

and my favourite

Help me make it through the night
by Southern Comfort
Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Reviving our music
Replies: 25
Views: 9334

Re: Reviving our music

The translations don't have anything to do with the conferences of bishops requesting permission to use them I am probably being very dim, but I do not understand this. For me - and any other composer/arranger - the key question is who holds the copyright. My understanding is that the same situatio...
by Southern Comfort
Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:22 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Reviving our music
Replies: 25
Views: 9334

Re: Reviving our music

Thomas - The translations don't have anything to do with the conferences of bishops requesting permission to use them. I don't think you'll find the new Grail too American, or Kenyan, or anything else. It'll just be "Grail-ian".
by Southern Comfort
Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:42 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Gospel Music Workshop this Saturday at Salford Cathedral
Replies: 9
Views: 17182

Re: Gospel Music Workshop this Saturday at Salford Cathedral

Miko is a sensational musician - this would be well worth going to.
by Southern Comfort
Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:40 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Grail IV now definitely on the way
Replies: 2
Views: 1893

Re: Grail IV now definitely on the way

This significant step paves the way for a time when the same liturgical psalter will be in use throughout the entire English-speaking world. The England and Wales Conference had already made it known that they would adopt Grail IV in a new Lectionary making use of the NRSV scripture translation. Do...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:07 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Authentic Liturgy....
Replies: 7
Views: 3703

Re: Authentic Liturgy....

However, do people really object to anglican phraseology? As far as I am aware, the revised missal uses this sort of language, with '...and with your spirit'; 'thwart'; 'wrought'; 'gibbett'; 'ineffable' etc.' That's in large part because the general secretary of ICEL and a number of his co-translat...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:53 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Grail IV now definitely on the way
Replies: 2
Views: 1893

Grail IV now definitely on the way

Over two months ago, the Bishops of Kenya in the course of revising their liturgical books were due to apply to Rome for a recognitio for the revised Grail psalter. The CDW had already indicated that there would be no problem approving this request when they received it. The US Bishops have now them...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:37 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Authentic Liturgy....
Replies: 7
Views: 3703

Re: Authentic Liturgy....

This extract from LA 40 seems to be directed at two things: (1) "Here endeth the lesson" and other examples of phraseology which come across as distinctly Anglican in tone; (2) EPs where the phraseology does not convey that transubstantiation is necessarily believed in by the participants....
by Southern Comfort
Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:31 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Today's guess at when new Missal will come in
Replies: 3
Views: 2473

Today's guess at when new Missal will come in

At today's meeting of the US Bishops' Conference, their chief liturgy bishop is reported as follows: The Proper of Seasons is one part of the much-anticipated new translation of the Roman Missal, the comprehensive collection of prayers and other texts for the Mass. During brief floor discussion yest...