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- Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:49 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5039
Re: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
It's worth remembering that John Paul II actually signed off on the new GIRM in Holy Week 2000, even though it was not published until July of the same year and had already been altered by that stage. My apologies: this was not totally correct. The date of the Pope's 'signature' on the document is ...
- Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:52 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Thomas Muir stuck in Africa?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 14531
Re: Thomas Muir stuck in Africa?
Dot wrote:I can get the full header info from "properties - details" (that which presbyter displayed in his 1st post), but I don't know if that's what the guy wants.
Yes. Give them the e-mail plus the details that presybter gave in both his posts.
- Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:46 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5039
Re: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
I thought that the GIRM in english published by the bishops of England and Wales (Ble mae'r fersion cymraeg?) was our bishops' adapted version specially for us and was issued as a different document from Rome's original with the recognitio of the CDW. I assumed it was in english because, as it was ...
- Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:15 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5039
Re: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
It seems clear that what is in our GIRM in para 48 is in fact a mistake. This is certainly the view of the Liturgy Office. Compare the text with that imposed on other countries by Rome. Latin Institutio Generalis Missalis Romani (2002 revision): Adhiberi potest sive antiphona cum suo psalmo in Gradu...
- Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:35 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5039
Re: On Entrance Antiphons - Reforming the Reform
The problem is, he's quoting Elaine Rendler who erroneously suggests that we should be singing the entrance antiphon itself. Actually, we shouldn't. We have discussed this quite recently, I think, so no need to go over the same old ground again. She also suggests that we don't have to sing all the v...
- Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:22 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6544
Re: Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion
I apologise if it is considered impolite to resume old threads on this forum. Recently some official thinking on this topic was reported which differs from the conclusions reached here. There is no proper form for either the Extraordinary or Ordinary Minister to use in such a case. Those who cannot...
- Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:03 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Baptisms en masse
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5204
Re: Baptisms en masse
The Church does indeed continue to view immersion as the primary means of baptism, and the rite frequently refers to "baptismal washing" and asks that those responsible "ensure that this washing is not a mere purification rite but the sacrament of being joined to Christ". There w...
- Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:45 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: exsultet .. youtube ICEL etc
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4898
Re: exsultet .. youtube ICEL etc
This one[/url] is fairly close to the tune given in the missal, which is an apadtation of the chant tune for the Latin text. Because of this it suffers somewhat due to the different patterns of stress between English and Latin. If that's not the tune you've got I'll need some clues to identify it. ...
- Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:04 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Mothering Sunday
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11440
Re: Mothering Sunday
I suppose we can take some small comfort that this is not the Mass that the Welsh martyrs shed their blood for, but rather a Bugnini Masonic cut-down. It most certainly is the Mass that the Welsh (and indeed all) martyrs shed their blood for, merely a different form of it. A significant proportion ...
- Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:23 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Mothering Sunday
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11440
Re: Mothering Sunday
But I feel that Jesus, being a man, cannot be my mother... As far as I am aware, it is OK to use female imagery for God (see the new catechism). My favourite example of this is Bernadette Farrell's 'Everyday God'. Men can be maternal! Where would I found Bernadette's song? It's in the Restless is t...
- Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:48 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Associations and Styles of Music
- Replies: 59
- Views: 30982
Re: Associations and Styles of Music
Not justifying Merbecke - I was an organist in an Anglican Church for years, that setting is a trully uninspired bit of hackwork. I seem to remember a similar(ish) early C20th one that seemed to be modelled on it. Can't for the life of me remember the title or composer, though - they say that memor...
- Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:27 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Associations and Styles of Music
- Replies: 59
- Views: 30982
Re: Associations and Styles of Music
I don't see how one can possibly suggest that the proper antiphons etc are not servants of the liturgy. Because they are not always proper. And that's the crux of the matter. We know, from those who worked on them, that the antiphons in the Missal were only included so that the plainchant people co...
- Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:48 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Associations and Styles of Music
- Replies: 59
- Views: 30982
Re: Associations and Styles of Music
Dare I mention Psallite as a possible solution for those who want to follow what the Missal suggests in terms of form, and for those who find the Graduale too difficult or for whom Latin is not an option?
- Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:47 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Grail Psalm 119
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3303
Re: Grail Psalm 119
Yes I mean 118 Vulgate. "By flowing waters" suggests Verses 1,15,32,40,45,47,97,103,105,129, but the translation is NSRV which I'm not struck with. Ps 118 (current version) 1 They are happy whose life is blameless, who follow God's law! 15 I will ponder all your precepts and consider your...
- Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:14 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Genuflecting Extraordinary Ministers
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9937
Re: Genuflecting Extraordinary Ministers
There are, of course, Eucharistic Prayers that contain no institution narrative. The Church considers them just as consecratory as those that do. IMO we need to get away from the superstitious "magic words" syndrome which has tended to transform the Eucharist from an action into a devotio...