Society of Saint Gregory

Gedackt flute wrote:My parish will be singing Haugen's 'All are welcome' in a few weeks time

Oh sigh - enough blogs about this text on the internet already. I've heard that an American Bishop has tried to excise it from the repertoire.

(10) Fidelity to the rites and to the authentic texts of the Liturgy is a requirement of the Lex orandi, which must always be in conformity with the Lex credendi. VICESIMUS QUINTUS ANNUS 1988 John Paul II leads to… (108) Sung texts and liturgical hymns have a particular importance and efficacy. Esp...

Calum Cille wrote:Hmm, there appear to be two "We are the Church" lyrics. The one I quoted is apparently by Sr. Paule Freeburg, DC, & Christopher Walker and has been criticised online.

Ah. Have I sown a seed of confusion? Apologies to CC if I have.

To which text do you refer GF ?

I am now wondering if Sr Delores is really an OSB or an OLA......that's Order of Laura Ashley.Hard to tell from her photos. (And here's "traditionalist" little me thinking that the religious habit of enclosed orders is something to do with being a sign of having "put on Christ". ...

From another blog discussing the Haugen text:

I really dont care what the lyrics are but I think the song sounds cool.

To what extent do people take notice of the texts of hymns when they are singing them? Discuss!

Here's the Dufner in full......... and I openly confess that I don't know what it means. The last two verses seem, to me, to have more to do with the political philosophy of the Constitution of the USA rather than the Church. I suppose verse one reflects the OT kahal YHWH , NT ekklesia . The refrain...

By the way - the vetting of hymn texts is nothing new in the history of the Church. At the Council (Synod) of Laodicea (about A.D. 363), the Bishops were so fed up with poor quality and theologically inaccurate home-grown hymn texts, they banned the lot from the liturgy. Psalms became the order of t...

We are the Church the Body of Christ We are the Church a people redeemed We are the Church anointed to serve God’s Holy People the People of God Not quite CC. This is the Walker text: We are the Church, happy to be, the children in God’s family. We are building the kingdom. [x2] Ev’ryone old and yo...

Has anyone come across a copy of the old original People's Mass (before it became the "New" People's Mass)? I have a melody line card but not the full accompaniment. The new text would slot in with a few editorial adjustments. Given that the Bishops (Liturgy Office) are encouraging parish...

- perhaps Presbyter would like to comment. Lutheran feminism with a tendancy towards misandry? Thus the Hebrew rendering of the mysterious first name of God has been reduced to a stereotypical title of a male authority figure... YHWH...... spoken Adonai ......... from the Ugaritic root Adon meaning...

I would refer you to our Bishops' guidelines - Celebrating the Mass - pages 73 onwards

Southern Comfort wrote:An informant has sent me the following link: http://www.catholic-pe.co.za/newmass.pdf

A bit out of date, surely SC. The Sanctus has the earlier ICEL proposal of "is the Lord". I bet "Christ has died" is excluded now, don't you think?

If you do not have a clue about what CC is saying..... and you feel like indulging in a nerd's approach to liturgy (what our transatlantic cousins call liturgics ) I thoroughly recommend -

Spinks B, The Sanctus in the Eucharistic Prayer, Cambridge University Press, 2002

Congratulations to our member alan from Malvern, who has made it, as it were, to the Edinburgh Fringe.

His Te Deum forms a part of Choral Matins on Sunday 21st August at St John's Episcopal Church, Princes Street.

http://www.thechoir.co.uk/#/music/4553354609

However, the price of £1.50 suggests that this a 'words only' or 'words and melody line'. Where are you getting the music version from, or is it a closely guarded secret? It is indeed the pew edition - words and melody - that I have seen - and only because I was asked to help proof read some of it....