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- Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:05 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: New texts - some practical points.
- Replies: 53
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Re: New texts - some practical points.
I myself have found the article on the Sanctus in the current M & L helpful.
- Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:33 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
What is its budget? What is it expected to do for that much? Who decides what it attempts to do? What is the order of priority of its various activities? How important are its activities relative to other calls on our money? On what basis are the answers to those questions determined, by whom and h...
- Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:10 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
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Re: PANEL decisions
Southern Comfort wrote:If the whole process comes to a standstill just because one person is on probably well-deserved leave.......
Begs the question as to why Martin is carrying the can for so many things alone and there has been no Secretary appointed.
- Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:06 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: Kevin Kelly on the new ICEL translation
- Replies: 4
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Re: Kevin Kelly on the new ICEL translation
Yes, let's have a riot!!!!!! What a particularly tasteless, insensitive and uncalled for remark that is EP. Well over 20,000 people have turned out here to mourn the deaths of the three victims of murder and this city is in deep shock. The Tablet editorial is here. http://www.thetablet.co.uk/articl...
- Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:33 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
On Pray Tell blog - 13th August In England and Wales, call-response settings of the memorial acclamations have been rejected by the E&W approval process on the grounds of undue repetition of the text. This cannot be true as a general policy of the Panel, surely. I sit here staring at Christopher...
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:27 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
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Re: PANEL decisions
Nick Baty wrote:You've omitted the comma after "Kyrie"!
In which case I will appeal and cite the 1948 Missal (Imprimatur, Nihil Obstat Diocese of Leeds) as a precedent - so as to contribute to case law.
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:14 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
What next? Israeli Mass revised? I offer the Israeli Mass revised Lord, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. Kyrie eleison. Lord, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. Kyrie eleison. etc… Holy, Holy, Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. Hosanna, hosanna in the highest. Bles...
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:38 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Nick Baty wrote:
I've been looking at one which has "Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, Lord God of hosts".
Presumably panel approved?
This one is panel approved too:
Holy, Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, Holy Lord, Holy Lord God of hosts......
Panel decisions seem as clear as mud.
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:25 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Nick Baty wrote: – do you, Presbyter, find the first example acceptable?
Not really a question of my judgement - no point in offering an opinion.
I have concrete proof of acceptance on my desk - a printed proof I have been reading. It's even got a Nihil Obstat.
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:12 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Sanctus submissions again.... If this is approved - as it has been - Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, Holy Lord God of hosts. Will this be....? Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, Lord God of hosts, Lord God of hosts. OK? One 'Lord' too many? Oh for some really clear guidance! Come on panel, you've had enough experience b...
- Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:56 am
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Just out of interest, when did the comma creep into in Kyrie, eleison? I possess a 19th century altar Missal with comma present - and a 1948 Missal with comma absent. I know where I can view a 17th century Altar Missal to check for you but not in the next few days. The 1948 Missal received its Impr...
- Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:45 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Sorry, P. Can't see that. Seems fairly straightforward: You are quoting GIRM 53/Guide 51. That is indeed straightforward. (Why the qualification "fairly"? You're being imprecise now.) Now look at Guide 52. It is written, to my mind, as an attempt to give clear information and distinct ins...
- Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:58 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
But as it's the Panel, and therefore the Guide, you're talking about, surely it's fairly clear. To me, §52 in the Guide could be interpreted as - "GIRM says you can but the Bishops want nothing to do with this, so let's not mention it." Yet that is not what is being said. BTW - NT - you'r...
- Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:42 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
Not quite with you, Presbyter. Although CTM is vague with the use of the word "normally", the guide for composers uses exactly the same words as GIRM: “it is sung either by everyone together, or by the people alternately with the choir, or by the choir alone”. "Normally" is a va...
- Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:43 pm
- Forum: Liturgy Matters
- Topic: PANEL decisions
- Replies: 768
- Views: 225061
Re: PANEL decisions
If, like me, you see some ambiguity between GIRM 53; CTM 148; Guide for Composers 51 & 52..... I have it on good authority that composers can submit purely choral settings of the Glory to God to panel. Note also sections 19 through 21 of the Guide. I am not considering this form of composition m...