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by NorthernTenor
Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:06 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Help please. Communion.
Replies: 7
Views: 4344

Re: Help please. Communion.

Why do I feel this conversation suggests that many who might think of themselves as liberal (in a post-Conciliar, non-pejorative sense) are ultramontane at heart? And some of us who think in terms of tradition and continuity aren't?
by NorthernTenor
Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:54 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

Thanks for the links. The guy actually writes in the English of the new translation. That has cost me a £5 bet. You may be able to save your fiver, Alan, by pointing out the double translation problem: I might be wrong, but it reads like a translation into English by an Italian journalist of notes ...
by NorthernTenor
Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:57 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Singing the Easter Sequence
Replies: 8
Views: 5073

Re: Singing the Easter Sequence

Looking further ahead, the same Mass also has a setting of the Pentecost Sequence, using an updated version of the Caswall translation. I hope that the Sequence is the sort of model text for which such adaptations are permissible and that we can therefore continue to use it. Any Sequence translatio...
by NorthernTenor
Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:35 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

I can't find any official announcement of this appointment, not any comment elsewhere on the web. Very odd. It may be that this board includes those who would get early notice of this news, and the small number of those (including myself) who give a d***n! If it's true (and I trust the source of th...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:19 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The Processional
Replies: 79
Views: 41555

Re: The Processional

Here's another vernacular adaptation of an Offertorio from the Graduale Romanum (2nd Sunday of Lent), this time employing the translation from the Processional. The salient points are: - I've added some pointing for the psalm verses. - It required considerably less adaptation than last month's, beca...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:34 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

Well, SC, you may be right, but until I hear something from Martin - and maybe it will have to be "I'm sorry, but this is out of my hands, and I have no idea when those responsible are going to do something" - what am I expected to think? A simple reply would work wonders. It is also worth...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:10 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

If you look back, Phil, you will see that my only strong criticism of you was for uncharitable comments made publicly on others of your own cathedral and city. You will see a pattern here: I have publicly criticised those who have descended to abuse of others for their comments or views, and one in ...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:24 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

I warmly second this, Phil. It can't have made Martin's work any easier to have been on the receiving end of obsessive complaints and relentless ad hominem . There's a problem, Martin, about which those concerned were warned in advance and in detail; it hasn't gone away; failure to address it, let ...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

I understand your concern, Phil, but I'm not sure it's quite so straight-forward. The best thing to have come out of the Liturgy Office of late by a country mile is its recommendation of the Processional. This didn't require much effort (John Ainslie provided that), but it is testimony to good judge...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:42 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

Best wishes to Fr. Gunter in his new role. It is to be hoped he speedily turns his attention to the scandal of the Permission to Publish Process and to the the underlying problems that have caused and prolonged it. I have just read an article of his . I suspect the text suffers in places from the il...
by NorthernTenor
Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:25 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and Worsh
Replies: 35
Views: 20295

Re: New Secretary to the Department for Christian Life and W

Southern Comfort wrote:
keitha wrote:He's also a Consultor to the Office of Papal Liturgies, no less!


Someone posting in this forum was also in that position in the run-up to the Millennium celebrations.....


Who was that?
by NorthernTenor
Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:23 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Preparing for Lent and Easter 2012
Replies: 112
Views: 43069

Re: Preparing for Lent and Easter 2012

I just prepared for Lent by taking part in a Lutheran devotional work (you have seven days to listen to it). Good chaps the Lutherans (if not quite straight in certain matters).

ps sorry for the off-topic, but you know how it is on the way home from a concert!
by NorthernTenor
Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:00 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord"
Replies: 15
Views: 9228

Re: Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord"

My PP has recently instructed me to ensure that the ones we sing are exactly as in the Lectionary. As SC has pointed out, there's quite a but of leeway. The suggested verses suffer the same problem as other antiphons: they work on a repeated one-year cycle. The first Sunday of Lent is a good exampl...
by NorthernTenor
Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:23 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: PANEL decisions
Replies: 768
Views: 225263

Re: PANEL decisions

I am sure that I heard that the choir of at least one of 'our' cathedrals uses the English Hymnal for singing hymns in parts. Fascinating and quite understandable. Now, back to the topic.... Thanks for the forebearance with a pleasant discursion into something that achieves excellence because it is...
by NorthernTenor
Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:55 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord"
Replies: 15
Views: 9228

Re: Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord"

I looked at the Lenten Gospel Acclamations recently, but they bear no relation to the acclamations given in the Lectionary. How much leeway is permissible in what to say or sing for the Gospel Acclamations and, for that matter, for the Responsorial Psalm? My PP has recently instructed me to ensure ...