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by oopsorganist
Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:20 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Oh
I thought we were going to be able to have a competition offering a prize to the first person to spot the problem.
by oopsorganist
Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:00 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

I hope you are not thinking I would have any kind of informed background? Not guilty.

Not me. Just googling around. That second article is American Journalism.
What is the problem?
by oopsorganist
Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:51 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Perhaps these two articles available online sum up the issues and debates around female altar servers, lay ministries and women's difficulties within the Catholic church so I will try to link them thus saving anyone reading the thread from confusion. (Oo, that must be a first ) For Canon Law - Cardi...
by oopsorganist
Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:26 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

I was reading more today. I found this "The reasons why the rubrics 'in no way contemplate the possibility of female servers' is because female servers were restricted by the 1917 Code (c. 813, §2). The 1917 Code is now completely abrogated, along with the prohibition on female altar servers, i...
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:52 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Ah I googled. A little randomly perhaps. But different viewpoints came up for me to read. So. All those roles - like readers, Eucharistic Ministers and so on, are delegated to the laity by the powers of authority. Nowadays, they can be delegated to males and females. This delegation can be revoked. ...
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Choral Director Post
Replies: 16
Views: 3354

Re: Choral Director Post

Perhaps the forum needs a Vacancies thingummy. That could be useful for paid and unpaid posts. Organist wanted. Choir leader available. Piano Accordionist needed, Southwark. That sort of thing. And then Admin in places like Leeds could pop their posts there without any discussion emerging. Take temp...
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:38 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Ah you were there then?
I was in Leeds at another Mass which failed to happen, as 'appens. No priest available you see. Mid afternoon. In my family time.

"Man enough for the job" is not a good phrase really. It's oppressive language.
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:03 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

The article took me aback for other reasons. The Bishop is glad for this service to be midday as he states that people should not have to attend Mass in the afternoon because this is "family time". So. And yet, people with disabilities have their service mid afternoon. And last time, no pr...
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:53 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Er so,
What is the defining factor?

It's not institutional misogeny is it?
Or perhaps, re enactment accuracy?

What is it. Please tell me. I need to know.

http://www.dioceseofleeds.org.uk/news/2142
by oopsorganist
Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:45 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Re: Extraordinary Form

Thanks for that Becky.
There is no way I can get my head round that. Why one language should permit inclusion and the other be all discriminatory. :cry: Surely it is the same meaning in each activity.
by oopsorganist
Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:38 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Form
Replies: 23
Views: 3671

Extraordinary Form

Do the altar servers at such a mass ie pre Vatican 2 have to be male?
by oopsorganist
Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:35 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Choral Director Post
Replies: 16
Views: 3354

Re: Choral Director Post

St Joseph's features in the news on the diocese website just now.
by oopsorganist
Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:58 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Choral Director Post
Replies: 16
Views: 3354

Re: Choral Director Post

I think the funding is already there - from the local education authority, lottery and such like, and the other monies that a diocese may or may not have. And I don't think it is an extension of provision just a continuation ie someone has left. But that is irrelevant. MCB is right this is not the p...
by oopsorganist
Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:55 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Choral Director Post
Replies: 16
Views: 3354

Re: Choral Director Post

Whichever way you look at it, that is 9 paid staff in the Music Department. That'll be quite a big salary bill all told. Luckily it flows into the schools and washes into the parishes. (Washing away organists in the process :twisted: )
It'll maybe suit someone who enjoys the Latin.
by oopsorganist
Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:10 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Only 20 hymns
Replies: 55
Views: 10080

Re: Only 20 hymns

What he said. And also just mentioning that this thread is an off spin from the thread about parish music in an age of dwindling resources..... in that their is a need for a simple book/CD or website where the average parish can get some help for drawing together people to sing together without a sp...