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by Southern Comfort
Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Liturgical Tourism
Replies: 178
Views: 45818

Re: Liturgical Tourism

One theory why the Kyrie remained in Greek is that some of the settings that we use today (e.g. Kyrie XVI) were already in existence at the time the liturgy went from Greek into Latin, and so they simply kept them. I think the chronology might be wrong for that. The Kyrie isn't mentioned in the Lat...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune
Replies: 12
Views: 3129

Re: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune

IncenseTom wrote:Have a look at this from about 7:50. The Kyrie is stunning, and not in a good way. The look on the priest's face is priceless.

http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/programmi/me ... 2708f.html


Polytonality....... :(
by Southern Comfort
Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:25 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune
Replies: 12
Views: 3129

Re: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune

alan29 wrote:I felt this belonged here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdcY93zSEYo


Speechless. Just speechless.
by Southern Comfort
Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:41 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Liturgical Tourism
Replies: 178
Views: 45818

Re: Liturgical Tourism

Yes the Kyrie is Greek. Why is that I wonder? What is it in Latin? Kyrie eleison = Miserere, Domine Christe eleison = Miserere, Christe That's why the Anglican "Lord, have mercy upon us" is not an exact translation. It would need to be Kyrie eleison himas (cf. the Good Friday Reproaches) ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:04 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Liturgical Tourism
Replies: 178
Views: 45818

Re: Liturgical Tourism

Peter wrote:a very fine lady cantor sang the Psalm and Gospel Acclamation and led the other singing, which included a Gloria, Offertory hymn, Sanctus, Memorial Acclamation and Our Father (oddly, not the Great Amen).


I think that might have been Sylvia Urdova. You were lucky!
by Southern Comfort
Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:13 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Bishop's consecration
Replies: 8
Views: 1832

Re: Bishop's consecration

I suppose, to be more complete, I should also have mentioned that lay people administer the sacrament of matrimony to each other, in front of the Church's witness, but I was focusing on the sacramental presiding roles.
by Southern Comfort
Tue May 31, 2016 9:45 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Bishop's consecration
Replies: 8
Views: 1832

Re: Bishop's consecration

As I understand it we are all baptised to be priests, kings and prophets and that is exactly what Bishop Paul Hendricks preached the other day. So I do not understand the idea of only bishops having "full priesthood" -clericalism again! We all have baptismal priesthood, as you say. We do ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 14, 2016 9:17 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pentecost Vigil
Replies: 1
Views: 777

Re: Pentecost Vigil

I have heard of (but have not been present at) celebrations of the Pentecost Vigil where they have had a reduced number of readings. I don't think there is any rubric permitting this, nor one forbidding it. It's just one of those things that people do. Personally, I'm just glad that they're making s...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 14, 2016 9:14 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Gloria
Replies: 13
Views: 3854

Re: Gloria

I was surprised to discover that the US Bishops have drawn attention to the desire in the Roman Missal third edition to use the Gloria more frequently than had been the case. Sacramental celebrations of marriage and confirmation will now be among those to be accompanied by the Gloria (even in Lent/...
by Southern Comfort
Thu May 12, 2016 9:21 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune
Replies: 12
Views: 3129

Re: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune

Duplicate post, due to old age and venerability, and the clunky editing mechanism of the forum..... :(
by Southern Comfort
Thu May 12, 2016 9:21 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune
Replies: 12
Views: 3129

Re: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune

organist wrote:Old age? :D


I'm sure some would say that both of us are old and venerable. :mrgreen: :lol:
by Southern Comfort
Thu May 12, 2016 9:16 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Another type of mass
Replies: 18
Views: 3260

Re: Another type of mass

I just want to point out, for the sake of clarity, that I haven't mentioned style at all in this discussion. No, and I didn't say you had. I was broadening the discussion because even the statement "We should be singing the Mass rather than singing at Mass" has been hijacked by people wit...
by Southern Comfort
Thu May 12, 2016 8:37 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Another type of mass
Replies: 18
Views: 3260

Re: Another type of mass

I understand hymns, worship songs, anything 'religious in it's content' sung at Mass to be religious music. Whereas, I understand the integral parts of the Mass (Kyrie, Gloria, etc etc) including the psalm to be liturgical music. For everyone, not just the original poster, I would say liturgical mu...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 11, 2016 9:15 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune
Replies: 12
Views: 3129

Re: It's Friday! Singing out of Tune

organist wrote:The film is good if a little sentimental. The French Madeleine was much better! :D


Someone else was talking about that today, but they said it was called "Marguerite". I had never heard of it, nor Madeleine.
by Southern Comfort
Tue May 10, 2016 8:53 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Another type of mass
Replies: 18
Views: 3260

Re: Another type of mass

I personally feel Kevin Keil's Cabrini Mass Gloria has little to commend it. If you are going abroad for a Gloria, I would suggest you take a look at Michael Joncas's Sing Praise and Thanksgiving Mass from WLP (World Library Publications). The Gloria has an excellent refrain and good verses.