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by Southern Comfort
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: ICEL new Missal texts sampler
Replies: 21
Views: 3932

Re: ICEL new Missal texts sampler

Indeed. Many priests within 5-10 years of retirement age will consider it all too much effort and simply won't bother to change. And neither will their congregations. The Roman powers-that-be will have succeeded in creating a kind of liturgical anarchy - exactly the opposite of the control they want...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:04 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: ICEL new Missal texts sampler
Replies: 21
Views: 3932

Re: ICEL new Missal texts sampler

My point is not so much that it will be difficult to proclaim these prayers (though that is indeed true), rather that the listener will not be able to take them in, make sense of them, and indeed find that they can feed his/her spiritual life. I am all in favour of preserving the richness of the old...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:43 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: ICEL new Missal texts sampler
Replies: 21
Views: 3932

ICEL new Missal texts sampler

Prepare to be somewhat depressed..... I recently received a copy of the Proper of Seasons in "grey book" form - i.e. this is a revised version of the original drafts, and its proponents think it is reasonably final. This was sent out to bishops' conferences last June, but some are only vot...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:47 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Defend deacons
Replies: 5
Views: 1385

Re: Defend deacons

organist wrote:In another thread


This one, just for info: http://www.ssg.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=655
by Southern Comfort
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:45 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Ministers (lay and ordained) charging for their ministries
Replies: 27
Views: 4618

Re: Ministers (lay and ordained) charging for their ministries

Well, I don't know. You turn your back for a couple of hours and all this off-topic diaconal stuff comes along... Folks, please feel free to start new threads at any time. Going OT makes it very difficult to stay focussed or to find anything retrospectively. Thank you. Sorrrrrry! A nerve was touche...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:38 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Relative importance of feasts
Replies: 14
Views: 2253

Re: Relative importance of feasts

I guess what I'm really getting at is how much our first communions can take over from Pentecost. My view is that it must be Pentecost Sunday with first communions rather than first communion Sunday with Pentecost playing second fiddle. My comparison with Christmas is that no-one would consider Chr...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:28 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Ministers (lay and ordained) charging for their ministries
Replies: 27
Views: 4618

Re: Ministers (lay and ordained) charging for their ministries

I was thinking, what the Church needs a bit urgently is lots of Deacons who can lead parishes in the absence of young Catholic Priests. Or ..... but those things would be too radical, but we do talk openly about this in our parish, but not when PP is around. Ooo, I'm right off topic. To continue of...
by Southern Comfort
Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:38 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Cringe-making lines in hymns
Replies: 36
Views: 9034

Re: Cringe-making lines in hymns

The Methodist Hymnal 1933, no 472: Come in, O come! The door stands open now; I knew Thy voice; Lord Jesus, it was Thou. The English Hymnal also 1933, no 638 ( Jerusalem, my happy home ), a treasure chest of gems: 12 Thy Saints are crowned with glory great; They see God face to face; They triumph s...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:41 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Organ in Lent
Replies: 15
Views: 3210

Re: Organ in Lent

I've just looked at the online page, and now see that it refers to the reading of the Passion itself. It's presumably reminding you (a) that some people have musical interludes - e.g. a verse of the Passion Chorale - punctuating the reading of the Passion, while some don't and just read straight thr...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:50 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Organ in Lent
Replies: 15
Views: 3210

Re: Organ in Lent

3) The last sentence of the Readers Notes in the Preparing the Liturgy Section for Palm Sunday says "will there be music or silence?" What does this refer to? I would guess it refers to the frequently-encountered practice of all leaving the end of the Palm Sunday liturgy in silence, not w...
by Southern Comfort
Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:40 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Congregational Singing
Replies: 16
Views: 3396

Re: Congregational Singing

I encourage people to sing 'May we be servants to one another, helping your kingdom come', which I think is reasonably close to the spirit of the original without venturing too far into Pelagianism.
by Southern Comfort
Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:12 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Good Friday Reproaches: to accompany?
Replies: 12
Views: 3171

Re: Good Friday Reproaches: to accompany?

Forgot to say that Music in the Mass does after all bear a tiny printing date of February 1969, so maybe a year earlier than I had thought. At that time Charles Grant was Bishop of Northampton (he wrote the Foreword in his capacity as the Chairman of the National Commission for Catholic Church Music...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:56 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Good Friday Reproaches: to accompany?
Replies: 12
Views: 3171

Re: Good Friday Reproaches: to accompany?

Extract from para 7 of "De Concentibus in Ecclesiis": In accordance with tradition, the organ should remain silent during the penitential seasons (Lent and Holy Week), during Advent and the Liturgy for the Dead. When, however, there is real pastoral need, the organ can be used to accompany...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Active Participation?
Replies: 31
Views: 5473

Re: Active Participation?

Like any other reform, this one was done both badly and well, depending on where you were (un)lucky enough to be. One major problem was that it was badly introduced, indeed mostly not properly introduced at all. The bishops did not form their clergy, so the clergy did not form their people...... and...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:38 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion
Replies: 10
Views: 3202

Re: Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion

It is quite untrue to say that a Minister of Communion cannot give a blessing. I have a priest friend who, when someone says to him "Please, Father, will you bless my rosary?", responds with a very firm " No! ", and then adds "...but I'll ask God to". This is precisely ...