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by Southern Comfort
Fri May 23, 2008 1:56 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: 21st century music
Replies: 14
Views: 3241

Re: 21st century music

Copyright: To me it is unacceptable that Mass and scripture translations are copyrighted. They ought to be in the public domain. It isn't a question here of making sure that authors/composers get properly recompensed. Of course the old Latin texts are out of copyright... I was pretty shocked a coup...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 16, 2008 9:06 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Kiss of peace
Replies: 10
Views: 2656

Re: Kiss of peace

Exactly so. The handshake is a secular sign which has the wrong connotations. For a number of years I have been advocating the double handclasp (which has the advantage that it does not disadvantage left-handed persons), in which both persons use both hands to clasp each other's, with no pumping up ...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 14, 2008 7:52 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Sung Masses
Replies: 33
Views: 6173

Re: Sung Masses

I wonder if anyone has noticed how many pieces in recent times have been written with a significantly longer refrain for the congregation than the length of the psalm verses, redressing the balance more than somewhat. I'm sure this is far from accidental. Congregations can do far more than we give t...
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 12, 2008 8:55 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Horrors
Replies: 16
Views: 3594

Re: Horrors

Holy, holy sung to "Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall"
Christ had died sung to the Jesus Christ Superstar theme
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 07, 2008 2:54 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

But it's not the text in the motets that we're talking about. Sigh. No, but the word unda (water) is. What was your point again? Since you raise it, my point was that unda = 'wave', with connotations of 'flowing', even 'flood', etc, rather than water (aqua) as a general rule. It's perfectly legitim...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 07, 2008 2:37 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

......but also that frequently it can come across as "the time when we all have to sit and wait while the choir shows off" (yes, I know it's judgemental language, but this is what people say). No time to contribute more to this interesting debate now as I only have a 10 minute lunch break...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 07, 2008 2:35 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

I only ask - and I'm being curious, not provocative - because I've learnt things from this thread and others about the way 'the assembly' is supposed to be thinking/acting/behaving at different points that were new to me (and I've read all the documents referred to in this thread at least), but, ha...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 07, 2008 6:01 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

There are multiple variants of the text <snip> All but the last make explicit reference to water ( unda can mean 'water' as well as 'wave', and that's what it means here) We could spend a long time arguing about minutiae like this, but let's not. Re-read that Isaiah bit about "From her I send ...
by Southern Comfort
Tue May 06, 2008 9:24 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Hymn book BearTraps
Replies: 23
Views: 5654

Re: Hymn book BearTraps

I have even had arguments with people in Lourdes who insisted that what they were doing was right, when it wasn't. Do you have any particular reason for think that being in Lourdes would make a difference? No, only to make the point that Laudate's manifest failings have not only spread to the conti...
by Southern Comfort
Tue May 06, 2008 9:15 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

Given that choir-only pieces during Communion ought to be discarded in favour of Communion psalms and songs with refrains for the assembly, Blimey, where does it say that then? There's a danger of being a bit too dogmatic on these things, isn't there? Well, presbyter has produced the documents. Mor...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 03, 2008 3:20 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Hymn book BearTraps
Replies: 23
Views: 5654

Re: Hymn book BearTraps

Laudate has literally thousands of misprints, which include many discrepancies between accompaniment and pew editions. The most annoying thing about the myriad of misprints in the accompaniment books is that many parish musicians who aren't familiar with the original editions of these pieces are lea...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 03, 2008 3:14 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

Given that choir-only pieces during Communion ought to be discarded in favour of Communion psalms and songs with refrains for the assembly, the best place for using all the settings of Ave verum, etc, that choirs like to do is during the presentation of the gifts.
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 02, 2008 11:03 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Girls and boys
Replies: 6
Views: 1886

Re: Girls and boys

I wonder if Musicus has now found the two posts he split off to form the new thread? My recollection is that there was some very interesting stuff there. Don't recall any flaming, simply disagreement as to whether forming boys' choirs was the best way to promote the singing of the assembly.
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 02, 2008 10:58 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Status of Hymns at Mass
Replies: 50
Views: 10215

Re: Status of Hymns at Mass

Our bishops did not obtain Rome's agreement. The version of GIRM that we have now was imposed on us by Rome. It arrived, with instructions for it to be promulgated. This is now the Roman way, and they have done the same with other countries. You submit a text for recognitio and sometime later you r...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 02, 2008 10:48 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Sung Masses
Replies: 33
Views: 6173

Re: Sung Masses

4) Do not ignore the possibility of singing the 'Our Father'. In my parish we do so to the Rimsky-Korsakov tone, unaccompanied by organ, with the choir providing the harmony - and have done so for some time. Now the whole congregation joins in, and it is a wonderful uplifting sound. Singing it forc...