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by Southern Comfort
Fri May 22, 2009 11:32 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archbishop of Westminster
Replies: 76
Views: 25581

Re: Archbishop of Westminster

I am curious about the coronation (ooops, installation) of “Lord Vincent” at Westminster Shouldn't that be "Earl Vincent"? But then one cannot expect an American to understand the degrees of rank of the British peerage. Didn't the Provost, Canon Michael Brockie, actually address him as &q...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 22, 2009 11:26 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archbishop of Westminster
Replies: 76
Views: 25581

Re: Archbishop of Westminster

In relation to John Ainslie's comments, whilst the Gathering Mass has its values and uses in parish worship, the thought of its Sanctus appearing in the Installation Mass does make me cringe a bit - it would have stood out like a sore thumb! You've obviously never heard this sung at a Chrism Mass b...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 22, 2009 9:52 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archbishop of Westminster
Replies: 76
Views: 25581

Re: Archbishop of Westminster

A correspondent in the USA asked this today: I am curious about the coronation (ooops, installation) of “Lord Vincent” at Westminster. As I looked at the program, I could find new music, but it sets Latin texts. Apart from the memorial acclamation, I couldn’t find anything for the congregation more ...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 20, 2009 10:51 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archaic translations (ICEL)
Replies: 40
Views: 13060

Re: Archaic translations (ICEL)

You rang? I want to emphasise that one of the major problems with the texts is that on paper they look better than they will actually be when listened to by a congregation. To clarify, it's not just the over-literal translation of the text and the stilted effect that this produces, it's the slavish ...
by Southern Comfort
Sun May 17, 2009 8:21 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archbishop of Westminster
Replies: 76
Views: 25581

Re: Archbishop of Westminster

organist wrote:Sanctus VII


:?: :?: :?: I hope not. Sanctus XVIII is what they often do. Or was this a typo for VIII (de Angelis) ?
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 16, 2009 5:30 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archaic translations (ICEL)
Replies: 40
Views: 13060

Re: Archaic translations (ICEL)

It may not be totally irrelevant to point out that the traditional wording of the Lord's Prayer is now only used in the Catholic Church and the higher reaches of the Anglican and Episcopal communion (and some of those use an even more archaic form of words - "which art in heaven", etc). Vi...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 15, 2009 12:51 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archaic translations (ICEL)
Replies: 40
Views: 13060

Re: Archaic translations (ICEL)

Yes - but will it be of any use?. If it does not make sense then why not just have Mass in Latin? It has already been stated many times that perhaps this is the underlying Roman agenda - to put people in a situation where returning to Latin if the English is unusable is seen as a better option. Hmmm.
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 15, 2009 12:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archaic translations (ICEL)
Replies: 40
Views: 13060

Re: Archaic translations (ICEL)

Getting us back on topic, the last time we discussed this in this thread http://www.ssg.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=658 , I said I can't help fearing that a lot of people are going to walk away from them as irrelevant to their lives. The tone is frequently reminiscent of Anglican collects ...
by Southern Comfort
Fri May 15, 2009 8:09 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Archaic translations (ICEL)
Replies: 40
Views: 13060

Re: Archaic translations (ICEL)

Surely anyone who actually wants to know what these words mean will find out? Dictionaries are common enough. We even have one in the parish library. Slightly unrealistic to expect that people will carry dictionaries with them to Mass. What was that word he said? I'll just look it up..... The quest...
by Southern Comfort
Wed May 13, 2009 11:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The wickedness of face cream
Replies: 150
Views: 374168

Re: The wickedness of face cream

I'm very fond of the hymn for the National Union of Seamen (if it still exists):

Hail, thou star of ocean,
porthole of the sky....
by Southern Comfort
Tue May 05, 2009 12:01 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Bring flowers of the rarest
Replies: 63
Views: 26086

Re: Bring flowers of the rarest

As I kneel before you.. , we seem to have it for every other wedding and funeral. I know it it is a favourite of our PP, because we escaped it for at least ten years before he came. I watch the sunrise: The appeal of this is, I think, in its ambiguity. Close to whom is not clear till the last word,...
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 04, 2009 5:44 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Bring flowers of the rarest
Replies: 63
Views: 26086

Re: Bring flowers of the rarest

We sang it when I was at primary school, way before Vatican II, but I've never encountered it since. It would be like going back to nursery rhymes - infantile regression in a big way. Southern Comfort's words might be interpreted in a way that suggests texts sung before the council are less mature ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 02, 2009 7:09 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Bring flowers of the rarest
Replies: 63
Views: 26086

Re: Bring flowers of the rarest

I must confess to being staggered at this thread. Can anyone seriously still be using this hymn? We sang it when I was at primary school, way before Vatican II, but I've never encountered it since. It would be like going back to nursery rhymes - infantile regression in a big way. I have heard of peo...
by Southern Comfort
Sat May 02, 2009 7:02 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: St Theresa's Prayer
Replies: 7
Views: 3779

Re: St Theresa's Prayer

The text is not copyright, only the music. St Teresa of Avila's prayer exists in many incarnations (a simple web search will show that). If you're not reproducing the music lines you should be OK.

Does that help, Lesley?
by Southern Comfort
Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:40 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: technology and CDs and such.......
Replies: 49
Views: 18991

Re: technology and CDs and such.......

I have to admit that I find animators a real distraction. In which case they're not doing it properly! Yes. Additionally, there are also some people who seem to have an inbuilt aversion to anyone other than the priest taking on any kind of leadership role in the liturgical assembly. In one parish t...