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by alan29
Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: God so loved the world
Replies: 9
Views: 1173

Re: God so loved the world

Its a lovely thing, I agree.
Are there any settings of that text for congregational use, I wonder.
by alan29
Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:41 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: You can't please all the people all of the time
Replies: 30
Views: 2898

Re: You can't please all the people all of the time

My automatic response to negative comments was to listen politely and invite the person concerned to replace me the following Sunday.
Strangely I don't get so much moaning these days.
by alan29
Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Liturgy Meetings
Replies: 5
Views: 890

Liturgy Meetings

Well we had our annual pre-Triduum meeting the other evening. We are a combined parish where a another parish has joined us after the closure of their church. The people who have joined have largely gravitated to the Saturday vigil Mass, where their old musicians provide the music. I am part of the ...
by alan29
Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Triduum accompaniment
Replies: 17
Views: 1883

Re: Triduum accompaniment

I have theory. Plainsong all sounds much of a muchness. So the best way of musically signalling the Triduum to the musically less sophisticated is by having minimal organ. Modern stuff has much more obvious musical contrasts so there is less need to pare down the accomaniment to signal the season. I...
by alan29
Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Triduum accompaniment
Replies: 17
Views: 1883

Re: Triduum accompaniment

I take it at face value..... no singing=no playing.
by alan29
Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:49 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"
Replies: 35
Views: 3158

Re: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"

Of course you have to be aspirational and continuously self-critical. There is always work to be done and room for improvement. And old things to replace when they get tired. I think the trick with congregations is to chose stuff that is singable, memorable, at a suitable pitch and with words that p...
by alan29
Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:15 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"
Replies: 35
Views: 3158

Re: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"

"The trouble is that it is true that the text of Sacrosanctum Consilium is a much more conservative document than 'liberals' would like, given that it continued to endorse Gregorian Chant as the highest form of church music and quoted Tra Le Sollicitudini with approval. So the conservative clai...
by alan29
Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

Gwyn wrote:Keraulophon highlighted . . .
According to the diocesan website
http://rcadc.org/commissions-committees ... ommission/

I wonder what they do?


No mention of music.
by alan29
Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:40 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

And more often those charisms are absent. Or latent or nascent, perhaps. And that's where formation and training is SO important. I am naturally fairly musical, but have absolutely no formal musical or liturgical training. Neither, when I was asked to start our music group, was any reading - never ...
by alan29
Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:30 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

High Peak wrote:
alan29 wrote:Are those priestly functions?


The discernment of charisms among his flock is very much part of the priestly role. Too often, however, ministries are assigned to the willing and eager rather than to those who have a genuine charism for that ministry.

And more often those charisms are absent.
by alan29
Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

There is room for all types of music. And people tend to gravitate towards a style of liturgy that suits their taste or temperament. What should be avoided is making value judgements on the preferences of those we disagree with. You should have come to the SSG's workshop day in Ingleby Barwick on S...
by alan29
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:28 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

Random thoughts here. What happens in parishes is entirely dependent on the talent in the parishes. That in turn depends on several factors. Declining numbers shrinks the pool of people. Have a look at what sort of music is being taught in schools in those places where it survives. That will have an...
by alan29
Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:45 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram
Replies: 24
Views: 2698

Re: Music and Church: Cult and Culture 50 years after Musicam Sacram

So many of the adjectives used in this discussion are subjective .... "superficial," "banal" etc. And so many of them are used to blanket matters of taste. And of course I can find phrases in official documents to back up almost any opinion I might hold on liturgical music. There...