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by mcb
Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:26 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Timothy Campbell RIP
Replies: 3
Views: 3113

Re: Timothy Campbell RIP

Terribly sad news. I remember Tim well from Summer Schools. Prayers for him and for Bruce.

Martin
by mcb
Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music
Replies: 33
Views: 13175

Re: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music

But you are right that the SLJ music was not originally for liturgical use but for concert use. Jeffrey Tucker says otherwise here : As Foley, who could play piano but learned guitar in seminary, says “Just at the time, the guitar started to be allowed in the new liturgy. I thought ‘well, they need...
by mcb
Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:27 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

I'm sorry, mcb , that you find the words of the Holy Father "utterly absurd". With which points exactly do you disagree? Pope Benedict seems to be talking about rock music. I don't think anyone round here is arguing in favour of rock music in church, so most of what you quoted is irreleva...
by mcb
Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:46 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

Without going into detail, John, here are just two of the many, many reasons that music like the items you identified above are completely unsuitable for the liturgy... Sorry, but I find these comments utterly absurd. Are you familiar with either piece that John proposed? Would you categorise eithe...
by mcb
Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:27 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The GIRM or not The GIRM
Replies: 7
Views: 4154

Re: The GIRM or not The GIRM

SC - I have the downloaded Missal - imprimatur March 2011 - is the GIRM contained in that the latest translation? Yep, General Instruction of the Roman Missal , starting at page 21. MCB - I followed the link, and then followed a link given in the blog, but I got a document obviously comparing parag...
by mcb
Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:36 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music
Replies: 33
Views: 13175

Re: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music

Let me get this right, mcb . You're saying that liturgical music is "pastoral" in so far as it is popular, and for as long as it remains so. Is that a fair summary of your view? No, as paraphrase and précis goes, this is not an accurate representation. I said "each individual item a ...
by mcb
Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:18 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music
Replies: 33
Views: 13175

Re: Pastoral liturgy and pastoral music

In my view -- people can really take ownership of quality texts & music over a period of time -- for example -- the 42 years in which the Grail Psalms have been sung at the church where I serve on music team. Further to this -- a great deal of music has proved to be more than epehmeral -- for e...
by mcb
Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:12 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: The GIRM or not The GIRM
Replies: 7
Views: 4154

Re: The GIRM or not The GIRM

Here's the beginnings of a comparison. I don't know if the project was ever completed.
by mcb
Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:08 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

Southern Comfort wrote:To save others looking it up...

... or clicking on the word Zenit in my post. :wink:
by mcb
Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:58 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

"It’s a small group because this presupposes a formation in Latin, a formation in a certain culture." I'd suggest an internet search on the words "presupposes a formation", which provides a link to any number of sites, including Zenit . Do you still maintain that SP was meant to...
by mcb
Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:57 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

...this "small group" (which, actually, really isn't that small) are loyal and obedient Catholics who love the Church, and who respect and obey the hierarchy. This is from a recent Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice newsletter: My objective has been to awaken people from the diabolically induced d...
by mcb
Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:49 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

The problem has been that, ever since, that small group has been telling the rest of us that they're right and we're all wrong. This is what was predicted to happen, and indeed it did, with unpleasant and unnecessary consequences in the life of the Church. Don't know that I agree - I'm not sure the...
by mcb
Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:37 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

Tom_Neal wrote:It is, however, true that the Holy Father didn't ever celebrate the Extraordinary Form in public during his pontificate.

It's fascinating and puzzling that he didn't. (To me, anyway; I know I should get out more.) Why do you think this was, Tom?
by mcb
Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:24 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

I think the cardinal was pointing to the fact that under Benedict there is a new a la carte element to our liturgy. That's an interesting viewpoint, Alan. Can I ask how you arrived at that conclusion? To my mind, Pope Benedict was aiming at quite the opposite! It seems to me that this is an inescap...
by mcb
Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:07 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015
Replies: 36
Views: 12504

Re: Robert Cardinal Sarah's message to 'Sacra Liturgia' 2015

Amen to all that, Tom. You could take para. 3 and see it as an abnegation of the idea of a so-called 'reform of the reform'. Is that project now defunct, do you think?