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by dmu3tem
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Funerals and autocrats
Replies: 18
Views: 2502

Re: Funerals and autocrats

I expect most people know that the Londonderry Air has been applied to two hymn texts: 'I Cannot Tell' and 'Lord of the Church'. Offhand I think they can be found in Mission Praise. The former would certainly justify its performance at a funeral. In any case I think the tune is pretty good, not leas...
by dmu3tem
Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Funerals and autocrats
Replies: 18
Views: 2502

Re: Funerals and autocrats

Several 'off the cuff' reactions. [1] Organists are more likely to be paid at funerals than in regular services - and usually they are paid more. The going rate was about £70 a few years ago. In such circumstances 'he who pays the piper should call the tune'. In such circumstances I also think it en...
by dmu3tem
Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pipe organ St John's Cathedral, Salford
Replies: 7
Views: 1024

Re: Pipe organ St John's Cathedral, Salford

I think there was an article about its replacement by the digital organ by Martin Barry in Music and Liturgy some 10-15 years ago
by dmu3tem
Tue May 01, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Responsorial Psalm
Replies: 21
Views: 6289

Re: Responsorial Psalm

Sorry to be slow responding: Just some quick reactions: I take it you are working in an Anglican church, if your congregation is used to Anglican chant, so here are some of my 'Anglican' experiences: [1] The church where I currently work uses Anglican Redemptorist service sheets with modern Anglican...
by dmu3tem
Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:24 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pipe Organs and Organists - Dying out?
Replies: 41
Views: 12213

Re: Pipe Organs and Organists - Dying out?

Sorry, perhaps I should clarify what I meant about the use of a Bourdon 16 on the keyboard of an organ: [1] I did not mean its use in a four-part hymn. As you say, it muddies the sound. [2] What I envisaged was its use for a rapidly moving bass line accompaniment (for example for a baroque figured b...
by dmu3tem
Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pipe Organs and Organists - Dying out?
Replies: 41
Views: 12213

Re: Pipe Organs and Organists - Dying out?

Concerning the survival - let alone revival - of Pipe Organs, the key point is that organists have to show creative imagination in their use during modern services today. Only then can the horrendous expense of restoring such instruments be justified. In particular they should: [1] Explore the possi...
by dmu3tem
Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:52 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music Recitals
Replies: 3
Views: 1946

Re: Music Recitals

Yes, lots of churches do this sort of thing up here in Lancashire. I set up a sequence of concerts myself last year - jolly hard work. There are significant financial risks; and my biggest problem was getting my proposals past the PCC. Advertising is a major operation; and really you cannot expect t...
by dmu3tem
Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:52 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music Recitals
Replies: 3
Views: 1946

Re: Music Recitals

Yes, lots of churches do this sort of thing up here in Lancashire. I set up a sequence of concerts myself last year - jolly hard work. There are significant financial risks; and my biggest problem was getting my proposals past the PCC. Advertising is a major operation; and really you cannot expect t...
by dmu3tem
Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:28 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Gloria settings
Replies: 13
Views: 4835

Re: Gloria settings

At the Anglican Church in Gisburn they do a metrical setting of the Gloria with paraphrase words by myself (follows the main text quite closely). It is sung to Tallis' Canon; so it is very practical as nothing new in the way of music needs to be learnt and it can be sung unison, or with 4 part hamro...
by dmu3tem
Fri May 26, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Offertory hymns
Replies: 34
Views: 14892

Re: Offertory hymns

Here are some more possibilities - some very old! I hope I am not duplicating other suggestions: O Bread of Heaven, beneath this veil : Originally in the Crown of Jesus Music. Brilliant tune by Hemy! However it has a tendency to sound a bit slushy and sentimental if it is not performed cleanly and o...
by dmu3tem
Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:51 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"
Replies: 35
Views: 8422

Re: International Declaration on Sacred Music "Cantate Domino"

I have glanced through all the responses to this, but not very thoroughly, so I hope what I say does not duplicate what has already been put down elsewhere. As far as I can tell the document is carefully written in generalist language to avoid the accusation that the authors wish -at heart - to retu...
by dmu3tem
Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Mass translation may be revised?
Replies: 36
Views: 8491

Re: Mass translation may be revised?

Just a few further remarks: [1] It is impossible to satisfy everyone when producing a liturgy. [2] A more fruitful line might be to go back to first principles and ask (a) what is a liturgy? (b) what is it for? Here are some possible responses: [a] Liturgy is a (more or less) formalised exchange bet...
by dmu3tem
Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:27 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Mass translation may be revised?
Replies: 36
Views: 8491

Re: Mass translation may be revised?

I have four reactions to all this: [1] Tinkering around with getting the text 'right' is Scribes and Sadducees stuff. The bottom line, surely, is whether the service works for the people who use it locally. A liturgy that does not do this is useless - even if it is liturgically 'authentic'. [2] What...
by dmu3tem
Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:27 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Singing the Sunday Mass psalm
Replies: 12
Views: 4741

Re: Singing the Sunday Mass psalm

Following on from the latest remarks: Yes, I certainly would endorse the advice to avoid an Operatic style with a heavy vibrato. On the other hand a 'monastic' style as practiced in Benedictine Houses (including Downside, where Murray was based) is often far too recessive for the sometimes violently...
by dmu3tem
Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Singing the Sunday Mass psalm
Replies: 12
Views: 4741

Re: Singing the Sunday Mass psalm

Yes, I am an enthusiastic supporter of the responsorial psalm. On the other hand I recognise the difficulties you have finding cantors to sing the solo verses. Essentially the problem - and its solution - is circular: If you do not sing the psalm your supply of cantors dries up; if you do sing it, i...