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by Calum Cille
Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:40 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday
Replies: 50
Views: 14268

Re: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday

Having now ensconced myself in a new parish, I have taken the time to review the House Rules posted under Liturgy Matters, which is the only section of the forum I have been active in. "Please post in a way that is respectful of other users. Flaming or abusing other users will not be tolerated....
by Calum Cille
Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:00 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday
Replies: 50
Views: 14268

Re: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday

HallamPhil wrote:There would seem to be a danger in occupying high ground. When the mists come you only see what little is at the peak rather than the panorama all around. (oh ... I'm sounding like Cantona!)

:? Presuming you would want to be on the mountain having seen the panorama!
by Calum Cille
Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:50 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday
Replies: 50
Views: 14268

Re: Future of this Forum - for AGM on Saturday

I am confident that we will see changes for the better following the AGM on Saturday. There are several ways in which we might weed out the trolling and the invective, thereby restoring both the supportive and friendly atmosphere of this forum and its reputation, and debate at the AGM (and, indeed,...
by Calum Cille
Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:54 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

Good. So that's one reason fewer for encouraging us all to celebrate Mass in Latin. Rubbish. That's a non sequitur. And as, in your world (much larger than mine, I understand) you would have run out of leaflets, then those of us who don't understand what's being said would not be able to turn to th...
by Calum Cille
Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:51 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

In a parish north of the border, a priest wears a cassock. Therefore all priests are assumed to wear cassocks. And, furthermore, it's the Catholic thing to do. I fear the words "your little world" are apt to rebound. The fact is that the vast majority of priests not only do not wear casso...
by Calum Cille
Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:57 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

Apologies. I've got a bit stuck with your statement that Latin “facilitates visiting groups of people who would otherwise feel a bit lost or excluded should the local community normally recite this kind of thing at mass: Zèzus aymàta uskitchinwàk uneyotiwàl k'tèmanguèlminè.” I thought you meant it....
by Calum Cille
Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:25 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

No I’m not. I’m saying you’re free to go to Mass in Latin and/or in English and so am I. That is not divisive. Yes, it is, principally because, by providing such an either-or choice on any given Sunday, you divide one community into two in one fell swoop - into Latin lovers and vernacular lovers - ...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:36 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

Because I am not saying “either-or”. Yes, you are, you're saying either you get to go to a mass in Latin or you get to go to a mass in English and never the twain shall meet. It's so divisive. My only diagreement is your assertion that everyone should in order to help a few people who might occasio...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:15 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

:D It's not often that we can catch you out! What happens when you don't catch me out? Presumably, the Latin translations of originals - Arameic, Greek, etc - was accurate in the first place and our vernacular translations also capture the essence of the originals... whatever 'accurate' means in te...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:40 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

It's very clear from your last message that you're limited to thinking of the issue in terms of either-or. Not at all. Do it. Enjoy. Whatever floats your boat, zings your strings and put the sting in your sling. How's that supposed to be an answer? So, if you weren’t fluent, how would you understan...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:20 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

Vox Americana wrote:
Calum Cille wrote:It's the original language of the mass in the form in which we have it today. The vernacular translation is from no other language but Latin.

No Greek then?

I stand corrected. Latin apart from one phrase in Greek.
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:17 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: What's going well?
Replies: 55
Views: 14575

Re: What's going well?

musicus wrote:
alan29 wrote:I always relish the reference to "Nights in white satin" in the verses.

:D I never spotted that!

Perhaps you didn't see me drawing attention to it on a previous thread ...
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by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:08 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

Latin Masses etc are exclusive unless we get suddenly to reintroduce Latin into the school curriculum (that's not good0 That's like saying jazz festivals are exclusive unless we teach jazz in schools. Kyrie eleison, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, three acclamations, Pater noster, Agnus Dei and a few other...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

It's very clear from your last message that you're limited to thinking of the issue in terms of either-or. I'm sure they are all good points, Nazard. Although I'm not sure about the "welcoming to strangers" bit as it is only welcoming if they themselves speak that particular language and w...
by Calum Cille
Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:06 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Out of the mouths of babes ...
Replies: 110
Views: 21569

Re: Out of the mouths of babes ...

You used to use an ordinary washing powder until you discovered Edexcel.