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by Southern Comfort
Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: "Responsorial" Gloria
Replies: 6
Views: 126

Re: "Responsorial" Gloria

I can recommend Dan Schutte's Mass of Christ the Savior, which can be sung either with a repeat refrain or straight through. Published by OCP (and available to listen to on Youtube) Be aware, if you use this, that it is known as the "My Little Pony" Mass. To give just one example: https://www.faceb...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: "Responsorial" Gloria
Replies: 6
Views: 126

Re: "Responsorial" Gloria

Rather than trying to use a Responsorial Gloria at all, why not use the Psallite Mass "At the Table of the Lord" Gloria? It's the one that at least seven dioceses in England and Wales (and many more elsewhere) recommended as the setting for parishes to use when we were changing to the new texts in 2...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:32 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Rite News
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Re: Extraordinary Rite News

I'd also want to say that Allen Morris has raised a deeper question, which is about how the rite evolves over time, and which developments may be considered authentic and which may not. A good example of this is the ritual of lighting a Unity Candle at weddings. For those who have not seen this, two...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:07 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Rite News
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Re: Extraordinary Rite News

At the same time it is a time to look again at whether those others of us, who are not following EF, do faithfully follow the liturgical norms that are in force. Many things have crept in which are 'norms, instructions, permissions and customs that precede the present Motu proprio' but not part of ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:02 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Rite News
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Re: Extraordinary Rite News

There are parishes that have been given over to groups that will only celebrate according to 1962. How will they stand? And there is no mention of other sacraments ........? This article Art. 8. Previous norms, instructions, permissions, and customs that do not conform to the provisions of the pres...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:19 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Extraordinary Rite News
Replies: 9
Views: 234

Re: Extraordinary Rite News

Long overdue! And the outpouring of vitriol and hate only serves to demonstrate how necessary this measure was. Summorum Pontificum was intended to keep existing small groups on board, as a pastoral gesture. No more than that. It didn't give them permission to proselytise. It didn't give them permis...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:52 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communal Singing in Church
Replies: 3
Views: 366

Re: Communal Singing in Church

It has been suggested that our bishops might welcome the return of congregational singing but advise that congregation members should be masked when singing. Certainly, tests with professional singers have shown that emissions are greatly reduced by the wearing of masks, although aerosols are still ...
by Southern Comfort
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming
Replies: 17
Views: 3421

Re: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming

Thanks - now I know. However, I don't understand - if NRSV (Catholic, English edition) is considered the 'best' at the moment (and I have a very smart hardback edition which I use) why is the Lectionary using ESV and not NRSV? Initially the Congregation for Divine Worship rejected NRSV (although th...
by Southern Comfort
Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:26 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming
Replies: 17
Views: 3421

Re: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming

Is the ESV the same as - or dfferent from - the NRSV Catholic Edition which is what I thought we were supposed to be using? If it is not the same how is it different? And if so, why is it different? They are completely different. Scholars tell us that NRSV (1989) is the best translation in widespre...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:10 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Rabbits.
Replies: 3
Views: 246

Re: Rabbits.

Guessing this thread will also be locked soon.....
by Southern Comfort
Sun May 30, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Wedding at Westminster
Replies: 6
Views: 269

Re: Wedding at Westminster

Doesn't portray the institutional Church in a very good light, alas.
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 24, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Liturgy
Replies: 11
Views: 1155

Re: Liturgy

Oops , every time people bend the rules or break them, we all suffer as a consequence. If people had consistently behaved themselves over the past 14 months, we'd be a lot further on in the process of exiting the restrictions than we actually are. The people who have tried to wiggle round, or have ...
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 10, 2021 11:29 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming
Replies: 17
Views: 3421

Re: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming

The Tablet reports, quoting Archbishop George Stack, that, "The translation of the Bible to be used in the new edition of the lectionary for Mass in England and Wales is being amended to use gender-inclusive language where contextually appropriate ... ... a number of adaptations are being made to t...
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 03, 2021 2:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Pre-recorded music in liturgy
Replies: 7
Views: 2975

Re: Pre-recorded music in liturgy

We have even had a recorded version of Amazing Grace. Barmy, but for many people recorded music is all they know. It's symptomatic of the fact that secular recorded music is often about the performer. You want to have the star performing their recording at your celebration. People have largely ceas...
by Southern Comfort
Mon May 03, 2021 2:36 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming
Replies: 17
Views: 3421

Re: New Translation of the Lectionary incoming

I will probably remain something of a psalm refusenik. In the present lectionary, the text of the refrain is rarely long enough to sing and it frequently has no obvious link to the preceding reading, to which is responds. In my (alas, now former) parish, we often sang eight-bar refrains. We develop...