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by Southern Comfort
Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communion under both kinds
Replies: 17
Views: 628

Re: Communion under both kinds

AGM — It really is pointless producing yet more material in support of intinction when what has been cited above is already conclusive as far as England and Wales are concerned. I took a look at a draft of the Norms for the Distribution of Holy Communion from the England and Wales Bishops that have...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communion under both kinds
Replies: 17
Views: 628

Re: Communion under both kinds

I think intinction is an option in England and Wales Writing from Australia, you are not aware of the legislation in place in England and Wales which means that intinction for the laity is not an option in England and Wales. (1) In 1976 the Bishops' Conference determined that the choice of whether ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communion under both kinds
Replies: 17
Views: 628

Re: Communion under both kinds

distribution under both kinds involves intinction, which is not permitted in England & Wales. (Perhpas becuase it smacks of self-administration, which is reserved to the ordained?) It can smack of self-administration (banned by Inaestimabile Donum as mentioned in the previous comment) when self-int...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communion under both kinds
Replies: 17
Views: 628

Re: Communion under both kinds

Southern Comfort wrote about Communion under both kinds: “Now it is permitted, and even encouraged, on all occasions, as the above quotations show.” The 2004 Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum has: “[102.] The chalice should not be ministered to lay members of Christ’s faithful where there is suc...
by Southern Comfort
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Communion under both kinds
Replies: 17
Views: 628

Re: Communion under both kinds

The most important paragraph in GIRM concerning Communion under both kinds is one that AGM did not mention: 85. It is most desirable that the faithful, just as the Priest himself is bound to do, receive the Lord’s Body from hosts consecrated at the same Mass and that, in the cases where this is fore...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

blackthorn fairy wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:35 pm
Sorry if this has perhaps become another topic...
Yes, Communion under one or both kinds at Mass is a different topic. Perhaps you'd like to start a new thread?
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

Near the end of page 5 in the “excellent paper by Fr Ed Foley, OFM Cap, in 2002” Southern Comfort linked to it has: “Receiving communion outside of Mass, is a good and right and just thing to do. It is an intimate encounter with the divine presence, and a grace event.” And then he immediately conti...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

The 1983 Code of Canon Law: “Canon 918. It is most strongly recommended that the faithful receive holy communion in the course of a eucharistic celebration. If, however, for good reason they ask for it apart from the Mass, it is to be administered to them, observing the liturgical rites.” Supersede...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

If Communion Services “are not a good idea” I think there is a problem is that the Church’s practice does not match the theory. <snip> Why not encourage Communion Services at 7.00 am and 8.00 pm so more people have the benefits of frequent reception of Holy Communion? Because, as stated above, the ...
by Southern Comfort
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

Some extracts from the 1973 liturgical book “Holy Communion and the Worship of the Eucharist Outside of Mass”: ...some of which have been superseded by the more recent (2004) legislation I quoted, which also supersedes some provisions of the Code of Canon Law. First of all, it is important to reali...
by Southern Comfort
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Hymns that conflict with Catholic doctrine.
Replies: 50
Views: 17797

Re: Hymns that conflict with Catholic doctrine.

At the recent "Adoremus" congress, on 8 September, Bishop Robert Barron, in one of his keynote addresses picked out the one line in the hymn, “Not in some heaven light years away,” and criticised it on the basis that that heaven is not light years away but is very close to us in the Eucharist. Perh...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

On a slight tangent, I have never really understood the distribution of communion on Good Friday – again, outside Mass. Historically, Communion for hundreds of years was not distributed on Good Friday until the recent reforms of the Holy Week rites. For many centuries, the only person who received ...
by Southern Comfort
Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

Here is the full text at the link: Celebrations in the Absence of a Priest Many people are familiar with what used to be called “Eucharistic Services”, today more often (and more accurately) known as “Services of Word and Communion”. These first started around the time of the 1973 Rite of Distributi...
by Southern Comfort
Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.
Replies: 26
Views: 1574

Re: Services of Word and Communion in the absence of a priest.

It's about differentiating between Mass and other services, and also about trying to maintain the iink between Communion and the action of the Eucharist (Mass). If you can always "get" Communion, why have Mass? Some dioceses have banned services of Word and Communion on weekdays (I gather Clifton ma...
by Southern Comfort
Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Liturgy Matters
Topic: Music for Papal Mass in Phoenix Park, Dublin
Replies: 15
Views: 1997

Re: Music for Papal Mass in Phoenix Park, Dublin

It may be the norm for published Masses to include all the Mass parts, but in average parishes it is certainly not the norm to use a matching set at the same Mass. I wonder why. Perhaps for the reasons I mentioned further up the thread. The forms are sufficiently different that folks instinctively ...