NorthernTenor wrote:I’m sorry you find it so difficult to have people disagree with you, SC.
If the cap fits, NT, if the cap fits....
I have absolutely no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with me. It would be an incredibly boring world if we all thought the same about everything. Where I have a problem is when you adduce facts that are quite simply incorrect in support of your opinions. Given that people can and do learn all kinds of rubbish from internet forums because anyone can post whatever they like, regardless of whether it is true or not, there is a moral obligation — and I think especially on contributors to this forum, which is well respected as a source of accurate information — to ensure that what appears is actually the truth. As long as you persist in posting statements that are in error, I'm going to have to keep correcting you, in order that others are not led astray.
You can post whatever opinions
seem good to you, and I may or may not choose to debate with you over them, but in the realm of facts
you, like the rest of us, have a duty to keep to the straight and narrow. The fact that you may not always find the facts palatable is beside the point. We all have things that we might prefer to be different, and being mature adults we learn to live with those as well as with the things that we enjoy and agree with.
NorthernTenor wrote:I think a key mistake you make is to identify liturgy as the manufactured word and directive of a given age, at the expense of the many other elements of practice and tradition – in this case, patterns of private prayer and contemplation.
Tradition is received directly from those who came before us. It is developed and transmitted down the centuries, not manufactured by antiquarians who wish to project their own modern preoccupations onto it, and use selected and edited parts of their understanding of early history to justify themselves.
All I can say in response to this unwarranted slur is that you are clearly no scholar. I most certainly do not identify liturgy as the manufactured word and directive of a given age, but as something which has over two thousand years grown and developed and changed, depending on the age and the culture. Nor do I desire to project my own preoccupations onto it, though you clearly do. I am quite comfortable with those who have different viewpoints, and it is always possible to learn from differences of opinion. That is how humanity grows. But opinions need to formed within a context of accurate data, not from what one might wish historical fact to have been. I think accusations of wanting to project one's own opinions onto history are liable to come back and bite those who make them.